Dangerous knee
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Well I got a good scare on my drive to work this morning. While cruising down the main boulevard I suddenly heard repetitive beeping (the kind you get when getting into the car and touching the gear shift lever without having the key in) and then looked at the instrument panel to see speedometer and tach at zero and no other activity.
The car was obviously dead and I tried turning the key but nothing happened--this was because the shift lever was still in D. I should have had the sense to push into N and try but instead I just sort of moved over as best I could and stopped at the curb. Then put the shift lever in P and it started right up.
I think what happened is that my knee hit and turned the ignition key while driving thus shutting everything off. Once I got going again I noticed how poorly the key location is designed (I don't know why I hadn't seen this before).
Doug
The car was obviously dead and I tried turning the key but nothing happened--this was because the shift lever was still in D. I should have had the sense to push into N and try but instead I just sort of moved over as best I could and stopped at the curb. Then put the shift lever in P and it started right up.
I think what happened is that my knee hit and turned the ignition key while driving thus shutting everything off. Once I got going again I noticed how poorly the key location is designed (I don't know why I hadn't seen this before).
Doug
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I'm OK with the keys tickling my knee, to short to hit it enough to switch it off. My problem is getting in and not hitting the trunk or gas cover releases (or both). Just as I buckle up and start to drive, I see the Boot Open message. Very irritating!
Guess that's better than killing the engine while in motion. Glad you're OK.
Guess that's better than killing the engine while in motion. Glad you're OK.
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What took me by surprise is that I have been driving the car now daily for more than 5 years and never had this happen, although I have been aware of my knee sometimes hitting the hanging key fob. I couldn't think of any reason why the car would suddenly shut off so I am just assuming that this time I actually jostled the key enough to turn off the ignition. It could be that I unintentionally moved the seat forward and the resulting leg position is what caused this.
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I've read of this concern elsewhere on this forum, and made me aware that my knee is also tickled by the dangling fob. I've not shut my engine off yet, but at least aware of the possibility as I drive.
One thing I do on all new cars is to choose my own clear bit of road to purposly switch off the ignition and experience how the car behaves. In the Jaguar's case, it was unique in not allowing a restart while only in neutral. If I recall, it was more than just a non-start, I'm sure a message popped up and a warning to put it in park (while stopped, obviously). Has anyone else experienced this?
Steve
One thing I do on all new cars is to choose my own clear bit of road to purposly switch off the ignition and experience how the car behaves. In the Jaguar's case, it was unique in not allowing a restart while only in neutral. If I recall, it was more than just a non-start, I'm sure a message popped up and a warning to put it in park (while stopped, obviously). Has anyone else experienced this?
Steve
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I'm OK with the keys tickling my knee, to short to hit it enough to switch it off. My problem is getting in and not hitting the trunk or gas cover releases (or both). Just as I buckle up and start to drive, I see the Boot Open message. Very irritating!
Guess that's better than killing the engine while in motion. Glad you're OK.
Guess that's better than killing the engine while in motion. Glad you're OK.
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Obviously different problems between RHD and LHD, and short ppl vs tall ones; I'm 186 cm tall (6 foot 2?) and had the fob irritatingly touch my knee; Not impossiple to make it turn unintendedly one day; But because of the irritation I attached the fob to the key with a very tight tiewrap, so the fob is now horizontal all the time; Problem solved!
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There is always this alternative https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ictures-93167/
Is the early trunk release flush/protruding? Mine is sunk below the fascia surface and I can't imagine hitting it with a knee.
Is the early trunk release flush/protruding? Mine is sunk below the fascia surface and I can't imagine hitting it with a knee.
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I have had exactly the same experience when I reached forward to retrieve my sunglasses from their little cubby hole (don't know whether this would happen with LHD). I knocked the key with my arm. I was travelling at 70mph uphill on the M11 in traffic and managed to pull over to the nearside lane, but when I turned the key the engine picked up instantly and I barely slowed down. mine is 2001 model.
Like many others, I am forever opening the boot (trunk) or the fuel filler with my knee as I get in!
Like many others, I am forever opening the boot (trunk) or the fuel filler with my knee as I get in!
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