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Old 04-15-2013, 03:30 PM
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My 1997 LHD XK8 ( ex us car) does not have a keyhole in the drivers door, I have been searching on eBay US and have sourced some door handles for XJ8/XK8 cars. Is the handle the same?

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Good question. As I have a US version, in the US, I'd love to have a door handle with a key mechanism for my passenger door. Would a UK driver's door handle from 'the other side' work?????
 
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Hi Padrino,
I am no expert but I see no reason why a rhd driver's door handle with keyhole would not fit a lhd passenger door. I could probably source one next time I am in London if you could source a LCD drivers handle for me in America. I am having some trouble sourcing one on eBay.
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I see two issues here:

1. the Lock Barrel has to match existing Door and Ignition or you need carry another key just for the passenger door
2. Door Latches are different on LHD / RHD



Because I've never considered doing this, I haven't taken much notice but I think the passenger latch won't have lock Actuator and Link (item 3).

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Well Matthew. R I think it easy to source you a 'used' US version of a driver's door mechanism but let's see what GGG or others might come back with for more info on this subject. Seems like a great idea to me if it works. Another example go Brit-Yank cooperation!
 

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Hi,
Good points by GGG. I have had a RHD Drivers handle mechanism modified to fit my key. This was done by a locksmith in SW London so I have a useable door lock but for my passenger side. I need to keep this handle and transfer the barrel to a LHD Drivers door handle. I take your point however about the linkages which could pose a bit of a problem, won't know until I strip the door down. I am not starting that until I get a handle.
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Originally Posted by matthew.r
......... I have had a RHD Drivers handle mechanism modified to fit my key. This was done by a locksmith in SW London so I have a useable door lock but for my passenger side...........
Very enterprising.
Reprofiling the lock has to be a lot easier than getting involved in Jaguar key cutting.

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Originally Posted by matthew.r
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Good points by GGG. I have had a RHD Drivers handle mechanism modified to fit my key. This was done by a locksmith in SW London so I have a useable door lock but for my passenger side. I need to keep this handle and transfer the barrel to a LHD Drivers door handle. I take your point however about the linkages which could pose a bit of a problem, won't know until I strip the door down. I am not starting that until I get a handle.
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I'll look into finding you a used US version drivers side door handle. To understand it thoroughly, we don't need the electronics of it, just the handle and key cylinder elements?
 

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You need to check the passenger side Door Latch has the same lock lever for the link (item 3 in post #4) as the driver's side. If it does, then you should only need the link BUT there may still be Door Module / programming issues to resolve.

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Okay, I've located 2 US versions of the driver's side door handle and mechanics. Before I splurge (not too cheap) and get one for our friend Matthew R. in the UK, I'd like to make sure we're on the right track. I found a couple of parts diagrams of the doors and importantly, a photo of the back side of a passenger door. I'm still looking for a photo of the back side of a driver's door. The diagram on the left is the driver's door as you can see the key lock cylinder (#8). Maybe GGG or others can chime in and see what parts are really needed (and a good locksmith of course) to make this happen.
 
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Duhhhh!!!! So the XK8's shared lots of parts with the XJ8's. My light bulb finally hit. Door handle internals too, just not the shape. Pictures of the back side of the XJ8 drivers's handle. Anyone want to help from here? What's needed to make this conversion for the UK version of the passenger door with a US version of a driver's door lock?
 
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Another aspect to consider is whether any lock assembly is for deadlocking or not. As I understand it, US models do not deadlock but UK versions do. According to SNG Barratt's new XK8/XKR parts catalogue (highly recommended and free!!), there are different part numbers for each type for LHD and RHD - eight locks in all!

It also states that two actuator links are required per car, so presumably the passenger side does have one
 
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...............Another aspect to consider is whether any lock assembly is for deadlocking or not........

......... It also states that two actuator links are required per car, so presumably the passenger side does have one
Good point about deadlocking. This could bring the Door Module and the Security Module into the equation.

On the driver's door latch (ignoring the cable to the interior handle), there's a link for the handle and another for the lock.

The passenger door latch will have the link to the handle but there nowhere to attach a link to the lock. To make this update work, the passenger latch has to have the lock lever on the latch.

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Getting a bit complicated with 'deadlocking', the security modual, the door module. What if just the entire 'door module' and keyed door handle are installed? Anyone think there might be programming or other issues?
 
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Bump to bring this back to life. Still looking for an answer.
 
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I'm trying to pull the inside and outside door handles apart so I can powder coat the chrome black. Have a spare set of handles but the external ones appear to have a pressed in hinge post in metal that has proven difficult to remove (without drilling it out). I could drill it out and replace it with a polished bolt but wondered if anyone had tried this. The inside ones are more difficult because the post is plastic and the handle covers the part that you need to push out. drilling it out will destroy the post and using a bolt will require metal to plastic glue which is iffy. So if anyone has tried this before would appreciate some advice.
 
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Originally Posted by Padrino
Getting a bit complicated with 'deadlocking', the security modual, the door module. What if just the entire 'door module' and keyed door handle are installed? Anyone think there might be programming or other issues?
The Door Modules are different:

Door handles-door-modules-xk8-1997.jpg

Biggest issue looks to be the Lock/Unlock on the Key Barrel.

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In addition to the probably Door Latch differences discussed earlier in the thread, the passenger door harness may not have this Lock/Unlock included.

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