engine swap/compatability
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engine swap/compatability
Another victim of the timing chain saga, i have a 2000 xk8 and I need to replace the engine, (which I would do myself) the problem is I keep getting conflicting information on which engine will/won't fit. obviously when looking for used engines - the more search options, the better. My basic assumption is that any 4.0 ltr from an XK or XJ would just drop in, but I have read that some may not be compatible with the transmission. I have a couple of leads on engines, both from 2003 XJ's ( must be accident prone) any information on transplanting would be greatly appreciated !!
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Lewkas...I'm in a similar boat as you. Only I've had my '97 XK8 with 49,500 original miles since August. It's had two tanks of gas. And the engine failed. Next to no compression in cylinder #3 and chunks/shavings of metal galore. This less than a week after an inner tie rod and wheel bearings. Hasn't been a good month.
Since Jag wants to sell me a new engine installed for $38.00 more than I paid for the entire car in August I'm going used too. I found a 4.0 out of a 2001 XK8 from a well respected part supplier. I really want it because it has 46,000 miles on it (which is so close to my odo). I did a search here with "engine swap" and couldn't find the exact answer. I would have sent a PM to AVOS but felt weird being a new member here.
Anyone know if this is possible?
Since Jag wants to sell me a new engine installed for $38.00 more than I paid for the entire car in August I'm going used too. I found a 4.0 out of a 2001 XK8 from a well respected part supplier. I really want it because it has 46,000 miles on it (which is so close to my odo). I did a search here with "engine swap" and couldn't find the exact answer. I would have sent a PM to AVOS but felt weird being a new member here.
Anyone know if this is possible?
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anXKinNJ,
The AJ26 ('97) to AJ27 ('01) swap is much more complicated than a swap with the same engine type.
Lewkas,
Why not try replacing the chain/tensioners and see what compression/cam clearance you have before pulling the head.
An engine swap between different engines is a complicated matter that may not be financially feasible if paying by the hour. A hobby mechanic can make it happen with enough research and time.
One poster swapped the AJ27 into an earlier car and then found that that the flex plate was different and had to start over.
Avos is a long time member of the forum and most helpful. I searched on name and subject and came up with this link. I know he has posted an exhaustive list of items to address but I cannot find it at this time. By all means PM him and ask for a link to that post.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...os+engine+swap
The AJ26 ('97) to AJ27 ('01) swap is much more complicated than a swap with the same engine type.
Lewkas,
Why not try replacing the chain/tensioners and see what compression/cam clearance you have before pulling the head.
An engine swap between different engines is a complicated matter that may not be financially feasible if paying by the hour. A hobby mechanic can make it happen with enough research and time.
One poster swapped the AJ27 into an earlier car and then found that that the flex plate was different and had to start over.
Avos is a long time member of the forum and most helpful. I searched on name and subject and came up with this link. I know he has posted an exhaustive list of items to address but I cannot find it at this time. By all means PM him and ask for a link to that post.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...os+engine+swap
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Redline (07-18-2019)
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XkinNj
I will try to give you the benefit of my research an hopefully save you more grief, from what I can tell, it is highly-NOT recommended to purchase an engine other than the model that came in your car . In your case an AJ26, if you drop in the 2001 (AJ27)engine you could be looking at other significant modifications to make it work properly=more$$$$. I realize this is a broad and intangible statement, but it sure seems to be the one thing most people agree on. (hopefully these statements were based on experience) Next problem, if you find a decent replacement, you will most likely want to upgrade the tensioners and guides=more$$$....at this point you should run out and sit in your car and have a "Zen" moment.
I will try to give you the benefit of my research an hopefully save you more grief, from what I can tell, it is highly-NOT recommended to purchase an engine other than the model that came in your car . In your case an AJ26, if you drop in the 2001 (AJ27)engine you could be looking at other significant modifications to make it work properly=more$$$$. I realize this is a broad and intangible statement, but it sure seems to be the one thing most people agree on. (hopefully these statements were based on experience) Next problem, if you find a decent replacement, you will most likely want to upgrade the tensioners and guides=more$$$....at this point you should run out and sit in your car and have a "Zen" moment.
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Redline (07-18-2019)
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Hi Test Point
I figured since I had the front cover off, it's not really a big deal to pull the heads, and I needed to make sure there was no damage due to the loud banging that occurred when I first tried to start it ( after the chain had broke...oops). Everything looks good so far, I took the heads down to a cert. jaguar mechanic for a second opinion and he confirmed that they are good...yes,he was surprised too,lucky eh!
Also, he mentioned that it would be prudent to check main bearing #5, apparently this has been another weak point on these engines.
I figured since I had the front cover off, it's not really a big deal to pull the heads, and I needed to make sure there was no damage due to the loud banging that occurred when I first tried to start it ( after the chain had broke...oops). Everything looks good so far, I took the heads down to a cert. jaguar mechanic for a second opinion and he confirmed that they are good...yes,he was surprised too,lucky eh!
Also, he mentioned that it would be prudent to check main bearing #5, apparently this has been another weak point on these engines.
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I finally found a couple of threads with more information than you probably want to know about engine swaps from Mortorcarman, JagTechOhio and Avos in this General Tech Help and on another forum.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...uick+reference
http://tiny.cc/wP9Fa
http://tiny.cc/7Dq0Q
Good luck and keep us posted on your efforts.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...uick+reference
http://tiny.cc/wP9Fa
http://tiny.cc/7Dq0Q
Good luck and keep us posted on your efforts.
Last edited by test point; 12-01-2009 at 07:11 AM.
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well...decided to rebuild what I have, there is no damage or indication that the valves hit the piston(s) most likely because the engine never fired after the timing chain broke. , even if I did buy a salvaged engine, with what I have learned so far i would be compelled to replace all these same parts anyway. I'll let you know how I make out...taking it apart was easy...putting it back together could prove to be ....challenging!! lol
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DavidYau (07-15-2019)
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update
well, I changed the timing chains, tensioners, removed the heads and had them tested, new water pump, gaskets etc... started it up, ran for 2 seconds then stalled, won,t stay running? appears to be flooding? all indications are pointing towards the timing being off? any suggestions at this point would be helpful! In the meantime I'm going remove the valve covers and see if there is anything amiss
Lewkas
Lewkas
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I want to swap my 2,7 diesel
Another victim of the timing chain saga, i have a 2000 xk8 and I need to replace the engine, (which I would do myself) the problem is I keep getting conflicting information on which engine will/won't fit. obviously when looking for used engines - the more search options, the better. My basic assumption is that any 4.0 ltr from an XK or XJ would just drop in, but I have read that some may not be compatible with the transmission. I have a couple of leads on engines, both from 2003 XJ's ( must be accident prone) any information on transplanting would be greatly appreciated !!
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I want to swap my 2,7 diesel
Another victim of the timing chain saga, i have a 2000 xk8 and I need to replace the engine, (which I would do myself) the problem is I keep getting conflicting information on which engine will/won't fit. obviously when looking for used engines - the more search options, the better. My basic assumption is that any 4.0 ltr from an XK or XJ would just drop in, but I have read that some may not be compatible with the transmission. I have a couple of leads on engines, both from 2003 XJ's ( must be accident prone) any information on transplanting would be greatly appreciated !!
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LS1 Swap seems to be the common favorite. A garage near me offers kits/conversions. Their kit includes:
Would be a project, but look at the engine bay... ye gods. That LS motor pulls HARD.
Jaguar Specialties
- Engine Mount Adaptors (LS engine to Jaguar chassis)
- Transmission Mount Adaptor (LS transmission to Jaguar chassis)
- Shifter Package (Jaguar shifter to GM transmission; not included on manual transmission version)
- Cooling System Adaptor Piping (Jaguar radiator to LS engine)
- Power Steering Interface (Jaguar steering rack to LS pump)
- Oil Pressure Sender Adaptor
- Driveline Adaptors (GM transmission to Jaguar driveline)
- Air Conditioning Pressure Switch Adaptor
- Conversion Manual
- XJ-XK CAN Interface Module
- Wiring Harness
- CAN Installation Man
Would be a project, but look at the engine bay... ye gods. That LS motor pulls HARD.
Jaguar Specialties
Last edited by coronets; 09-12-2019 at 01:47 AM.
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I have an XK100 with 140,000kms on the clock. The Aircon and the steering pump have just failed after a $11k spent changing the fuel tank and I've got to do the suspension bushes next. I've decided to pull the engine out and re engine the car as part of a restoration. My daily drive is a Land Rover Discovery 2 V8 (180,000kms) that has just split a cylinder liner and needs engining.
My question is; has anyone here fitted a Jag 4.0 into a Land Rover Discovery 2?
My question is; has anyone here fitted a Jag 4.0 into a Land Rover Discovery 2?