Fog Lights - HID Xenon Conversion Feedback
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Fog Lights - HID Xenon Conversion Feedback
Guys, the other day I promised feedback on this conversion. Think I have enough now to help folks out down the road.
Background: I purchased the same conversion for my low beams. Could not be happier, huge improvement.
Fog Lights: They use an H1 bulb on stock 1998s. Technically this is the same bulb as the low beams, but they sure do fasten in place differently.
I purchased the KenSun kit. When I looked at the bulb selection, I neglected to look and see what worked so well for the low beams (answer: 6000K bulbs). Well I saw the option for 10,000K bulbs and bought that. Thought to self: higher number must be brighter right?. Wrong, Very wrong
10,000K are blue bulbs. There is hardly any improvement at all.
I purchased 6000K bulbs to see if it improves. Should it work I will add to this evaluation next week.
Installation:
The Low beams were simple, all the connectors fit right into the factory terminals. Not so on the Fog lights - you will have to cut and solder the wires together.
Bulb mounting: Earlier I mentioned different mounting housings for the same H1 bulb. The factory bulb comes with plastic tabs to produce a positive lock when installing a fog light bulb. Let me simplify this: KenSung has incredibly good customer service. They have sent me 2 sets of bulbs to work through this, no cost, no returns expected. Unfortunately they have nothing to provide positive lock using the existing mounting.
Somehow I "lucked" out. I ordered something other than the H1 bulb and received a bulb type that can be pressed into the fog light receptacle by hand. Sure seems snug and water proof. I have driven 2 weeks, all OK. Kind of bothers me that it is not designed for this receptacle.
So far this one was not worth the $$ or the energy to replace with the HID's. But I learned something about the bulb's temperatures, 6000k is bright white, 10000k is bluish.
Out of KenSun customer service's kindness i will receive that 6000K bulb next week. I'll let you know how that works out. Despite the excellent customer service, the need for soldering, and the admitted lack of identical mounts has to make me give this one a thumbs down, don't bother doing it review. Hope it helps.
John
Background: I purchased the same conversion for my low beams. Could not be happier, huge improvement.
Fog Lights: They use an H1 bulb on stock 1998s. Technically this is the same bulb as the low beams, but they sure do fasten in place differently.
I purchased the KenSun kit. When I looked at the bulb selection, I neglected to look and see what worked so well for the low beams (answer: 6000K bulbs). Well I saw the option for 10,000K bulbs and bought that. Thought to self: higher number must be brighter right?. Wrong, Very wrong
10,000K are blue bulbs. There is hardly any improvement at all.
I purchased 6000K bulbs to see if it improves. Should it work I will add to this evaluation next week.
Installation:
The Low beams were simple, all the connectors fit right into the factory terminals. Not so on the Fog lights - you will have to cut and solder the wires together.
Bulb mounting: Earlier I mentioned different mounting housings for the same H1 bulb. The factory bulb comes with plastic tabs to produce a positive lock when installing a fog light bulb. Let me simplify this: KenSung has incredibly good customer service. They have sent me 2 sets of bulbs to work through this, no cost, no returns expected. Unfortunately they have nothing to provide positive lock using the existing mounting.
Somehow I "lucked" out. I ordered something other than the H1 bulb and received a bulb type that can be pressed into the fog light receptacle by hand. Sure seems snug and water proof. I have driven 2 weeks, all OK. Kind of bothers me that it is not designed for this receptacle.
So far this one was not worth the $$ or the energy to replace with the HID's. But I learned something about the bulb's temperatures, 6000k is bright white, 10000k is bluish.
Out of KenSun customer service's kindness i will receive that 6000K bulb next week. I'll let you know how that works out. Despite the excellent customer service, the need for soldering, and the admitted lack of identical mounts has to make me give this one a thumbs down, don't bother doing it review. Hope it helps.
John
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Johnken, I applaud your updating the fog lighting and think you're very smart to stay away from the bluer 10,000K lamps. In my 52 years of driving experience, even bright white (6000K) fog light lamps make a vehicle more visible to oncoming cars in good weather conditions, they will be less effective in actual fog conditions. The bright white light still contains traces of blue, which is processed by the brain in such a way that we "see" it as more glaring and less definitive.
Fog light use in non-foggy conditions is first of all illegal in many states, as the broad-angle light projection creates highly annoying glare to oncoming drivers without adding to (your own) visibility (can I get an "amen"?). Might as well drive with high beams on all the time ... Most fog lights do not project light down and under the fog to keep reflection at a minimum, but straight ahead and even upwards, contributing to further hindrance to your vision (due to the reflection angle). Reflecting off of the super-fine fog droplets, bright white and blue light create more "glare" to the eyes.
Many websites will tell you that it really doesn't matter, but, as a commercial pilot and a shooter (former police officer), I noted years ago that yellow lenses in my flying and safety glasses substantially reduced glare and improved definition. Now, at 68, my vision benefits noticeably from yellow-tinted driving glasses at and after dusk, even in clear conditions. It may be a little late, but if the main plan is to be using the fog lights in actual foggy conditions, the warmer the light (4,200K ("true white"), or even better, 3000K ("warm white")) could well prove more effective and efficient. Our eyes use 35% of our energy, so anything you can do to reduce glare helps keep you sharper and safer. Keep experimenting to find the best solution for your eyes (and politeness to other drivers).
Just my $.02... Happy Motoring!
Fog light use in non-foggy conditions is first of all illegal in many states, as the broad-angle light projection creates highly annoying glare to oncoming drivers without adding to (your own) visibility (can I get an "amen"?). Might as well drive with high beams on all the time ... Most fog lights do not project light down and under the fog to keep reflection at a minimum, but straight ahead and even upwards, contributing to further hindrance to your vision (due to the reflection angle). Reflecting off of the super-fine fog droplets, bright white and blue light create more "glare" to the eyes.
Many websites will tell you that it really doesn't matter, but, as a commercial pilot and a shooter (former police officer), I noted years ago that yellow lenses in my flying and safety glasses substantially reduced glare and improved definition. Now, at 68, my vision benefits noticeably from yellow-tinted driving glasses at and after dusk, even in clear conditions. It may be a little late, but if the main plan is to be using the fog lights in actual foggy conditions, the warmer the light (4,200K ("true white"), or even better, 3000K ("warm white")) could well prove more effective and efficient. Our eyes use 35% of our energy, so anything you can do to reduce glare helps keep you sharper and safer. Keep experimenting to find the best solution for your eyes (and politeness to other drivers).
Just my $.02... Happy Motoring!
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Redline, great feedback. I should have asked you for advice before this adventure ��.
Update: thanks to KenSun's excellent customer service I got the 6000k bulbs yesterday.
Easy enough to change, though I had to remove drivers side wheel for proper access.
Just like Redline predicted, they are a little blue tinged, but far far superior to the 10000k bulbs.
Does it now make a noticeable improvement over stock? Yes.
Was it worth the $50 plus effort? No, I do not recommend upgrading your fog lights. Just not enough bang for the buck on this one.
If you ever decide to do It- pay attention to Redlines description. The warmer your light, the better these work. It makes a huge difference. Btw, I use these to augment normal low beam's, hardly ever for fog. Redline, I agree with you and would never use a light that impedes oncoming traffic. On the 1998s these must be pointed down or something. Tested with friends, no glare to oncoming, never ever had any one flash at me like I was annoying them. In fact this was my biggest concern when I upgraded my low beam's. I hate the way some folks blind oncomming.
Who knows, I may be praising these guys to myself when they help me spot a deer on the side someday, but the lack of a perfect bulb mount and the incremental improvements force me to say "not recommended. "
John
Update: thanks to KenSun's excellent customer service I got the 6000k bulbs yesterday.
Easy enough to change, though I had to remove drivers side wheel for proper access.
Just like Redline predicted, they are a little blue tinged, but far far superior to the 10000k bulbs.
Does it now make a noticeable improvement over stock? Yes.
Was it worth the $50 plus effort? No, I do not recommend upgrading your fog lights. Just not enough bang for the buck on this one.
If you ever decide to do It- pay attention to Redlines description. The warmer your light, the better these work. It makes a huge difference. Btw, I use these to augment normal low beam's, hardly ever for fog. Redline, I agree with you and would never use a light that impedes oncoming traffic. On the 1998s these must be pointed down or something. Tested with friends, no glare to oncoming, never ever had any one flash at me like I was annoying them. In fact this was my biggest concern when I upgraded my low beam's. I hate the way some folks blind oncomming.
Who knows, I may be praising these guys to myself when they help me spot a deer on the side someday, but the lack of a perfect bulb mount and the incremental improvements force me to say "not recommended. "
John
Last edited by Johnken; 06-03-2018 at 01:06 AM.
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