Fuel pump confusion
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2001 XK8 with 65K miles. Pulled in for gas and turned off the engine. Restarting, it would crank and rumble but not fire up. No warnings, no restricted performance alert, nothing. Had it towed. My regular mechanic says it is a fuel pump issue, but that the problem is electrical and not the mechanical part. He also says I should replace the linkage.
Can anyone tell me more? I haven't spoken yet to the mechanic; just the front office giving me a $800-plus quote for the component and labor. Said the tank must be removed to do the job, and that alone will take 4 hours.
Does this sound right? What is the related electrical component they are likely talking about, and what linkage is involved?
I trust these guys, but still I'd like to know what others think.
Can anyone tell me more? I haven't spoken yet to the mechanic; just the front office giving me a $800-plus quote for the component and labor. Said the tank must be removed to do the job, and that alone will take 4 hours.
Does this sound right? What is the related electrical component they are likely talking about, and what linkage is involved?
I trust these guys, but still I'd like to know what others think.
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2001 XK8 with 65K miles. Pulled in for gas and turned off the engine. Restarting, it would crank and rumble but not fire up. No warnings, no restricted performance alert, nothing. Had it towed. My regular mechanic says it is a fuel pump issue, but that the problem is electrical and not the mechanical part. He also says I should replace the linkage.
Can anyone tell me more? I haven't spoken yet to the mechanic; just the front office giving me a $800-plus quote for the component and labor. Said the tank must be removed to do the job, and that alone will take 4 hours.
Does this sound right? What is the related electrical component they are likely talking about, and what linkage is involved?
I trust these guys, but still I'd like to know what others think.
Can anyone tell me more? I haven't spoken yet to the mechanic; just the front office giving me a $800-plus quote for the component and labor. Said the tank must be removed to do the job, and that alone will take 4 hours.
Does this sound right? What is the related electrical component they are likely talking about, and what linkage is involved?
I trust these guys, but still I'd like to know what others think.
I had my 2001 XK-8 towed into the shop last week for the same problem. My cost was $800, the same for the fuel pump, which was indeed dead. I had changed out the fuel filter that is under the car myself, cost $15 at NAPA.
Also had a coolant leak which turned out to be a deterioration of the plastic parts at the thermostat location, plus hoses that run under the intake manifold. Cost another $800. They replace all the plastic stuff with metal replacement parts. Its a weak spot on the XK models I am told.
So your cost sounds about right. I am assuming that is not a dealer you are talking to. The dealer would probably charge 2K or more for the fuel pump work alone.
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I had my 2001 XK-8 towed into the shop last week for the same problem. My cost was $800, the same for the fuel pump, which was indeed dead. I had changed out the fuel filter that is under the car myself, cost $15 at NAPA.
Also had a coolant leak which turned out to be a deterioration of the plastic parts at the thermostat location, plus hoses that run under the intake manifold. Cost another $800. They replace all the plastic stuff with metal replacement parts. Its a weak spot on the XK models I am told.
So your cost sounds about right. I am assuming that is not a dealer you are talking to. The dealer would probably charge 2K or more for the fuel pump work alone.
Also had a coolant leak which turned out to be a deterioration of the plastic parts at the thermostat location, plus hoses that run under the intake manifold. Cost another $800. They replace all the plastic stuff with metal replacement parts. Its a weak spot on the XK models I am told.
So your cost sounds about right. I am assuming that is not a dealer you are talking to. The dealer would probably charge 2K or more for the fuel pump work alone.
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Yep the dealer is usually double our other local job shop that works on Jags. Back in 2007 the Jag dealer was $110 per hour and they find plenty of hours to pay the overhead.
The dealer does good work, so I can't knock them, but the pricing is set for folks that walk in a pay cash for these cars new. The upercrust of society.
Me I am retired and can no longer aford to pay them the huge markup. Wish I could. I would have a new XK in my driveway this week.
The dealer does good work, so I can't knock them, but the pricing is set for folks that walk in a pay cash for these cars new. The upercrust of society.
Me I am retired and can no longer aford to pay them the huge markup. Wish I could. I would have a new XK in my driveway this week.
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If you want to know what's involved in replacing your fuel pump, just watch the video below. It's a DIY job, it's just a pain in the ***. If I wasn't so cheap I would have paid to have it done. If money is no object then $800 sounds reasonable at a Jag dealer. I'm sure you can get an independent shop to do it much cheaper.
There's a slight difference between your car and mine. Mine only has a single fuel line to disconnect under the car. Yours has two, a supply line and a return line. They are side by side above the differential, so take that into consideration when deciding whether to do it yourself or have someone else do it.
Jaguar XK8 Fuel Pump Replacement - YouTube
There's a slight difference between your car and mine. Mine only has a single fuel line to disconnect under the car. Yours has two, a supply line and a return line. They are side by side above the differential, so take that into consideration when deciding whether to do it yourself or have someone else do it.
Jaguar XK8 Fuel Pump Replacement - YouTube
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The dealer also quoted me $461 to fix a small oil leak on my left cam cover. I called my local mechanic and he said that he could do it for $175 or both for $350... I scheduled an appoint with him for Monday. ![Smile](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I agree that they know what they're doing at the dealer. The guy who worked on my car has 13 yrs experience but boy are they expensive.
BTW - I looked at the new XK while I was there and WOW!!! They are sweet!
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I agree that they know what they're doing at the dealer. The guy who worked on my car has 13 yrs experience but boy are they expensive.
BTW - I looked at the new XK while I was there and WOW!!! They are sweet!
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I bought a reasonably new XKR only 13K miles. But in the first week I had a burned out fuel pump. I didn't take it to the dealer, but it did still cost me $1500. Then 6 months later it burned up again. The mechanic agreed to replace it under warranty and this time i made sure they found out the cause. It tuned out to be a short in the wiring harness around the rear seats. The wire casing was scraped away in a spot which was shorting and causing the problems with the pump. All's well now but it was frustrating for both myself an my mechanic.
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Interesting how many people have had the fuel pump problem. Post makes me feel that I made the right choice to let my independent Jag shop do the job and at their price rather than visit the dealer. Happy so far.
Had I had a nice warm garage to prop up the car or a lift i might have attempted to do the job myself. The video was great, showed that this is not exactly a job for someone without the correct tools and some advanced mechanical skill.
Great forum and lots of talent posting here. Thanks to all.
Had I had a nice warm garage to prop up the car or a lift i might have attempted to do the job myself. The video was great, showed that this is not exactly a job for someone without the correct tools and some advanced mechanical skill.
Great forum and lots of talent posting here. Thanks to all.
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Video was most helpful -- and well done. I now have a great appreciation for what my mechanic will have to go through to do this job. Me, I'm too up in years to tackle a job like this. By the way, Sam, are you wearing a Rolex while working on the car? Damned good way to scratch it up.
The watch is bulletproof. It weighs almost half a pound. The crystal is made of synthetic sapphire, which is also called corundum. It has a Mohs hardness of 9+. About the only thing that can scratch it is diamond, silicon carbide, tungsten carbide, and a few other rare things. The bezel is made of some sort of super-hard ceramic. The case is made of stainless steel, and if I scratch it I can always have the scratch polished out. I've accidentally banged it up against brick walls and the only damage was to the wall. Everything on the watch is harder than everything on my car, so in a watch vs. car battle, the watch is going to win.
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And as much as I love the car, if I had to give up one or the other, I'd give up the car.
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I recently also had the no start problem, and the car was fortunately at home. I hooked up my Fuel Pressure Gauges ($19 from Harbor Freight) to the fuel rail at the back right of the engine. No pressure was indicated.
I ordered the AIRTEX E2471 fuel pump ($72) , strainer sock and a $8 fuel filter @ RockAuto.com--and received the parts very promptly. The fuel pump is nothing exotic--same one Ford used on Taurus and some Mazda's.
I put the car up on blocks, and I attempted to disconnect the tank connections. But, my fingers are not 8" long. I couldn't move around enough to get a long skinny screwdriver on the quick attach fuel injection type connections.
Called my local mechanic who picked up the car on his rollback ($65.) They work on Jags all the time, and charged the normal 2.7 base rate hours @ $50, or $135, to pull the tank and replace the pump. He has pulled Jag tanks before, and changing the fuel pump was relatively easy on his lift.
It's a $300 job in our area. Please remember that many service repairs on Jaguars (like brakes) are simple, normal jobs--within the capabilities of normal wrench pullers. There again, some jobs (ABS lights, driveabilty problems) take a dedicated, experienced Jaguar mechanic. It's almost like you need two sets of mechanics to maintain these cars--if you're unwilling to do the work yourself. There again, I'm fortunate to have found a good, independent service shop with Jaguar experience.
I ordered the AIRTEX E2471 fuel pump ($72) , strainer sock and a $8 fuel filter @ RockAuto.com--and received the parts very promptly. The fuel pump is nothing exotic--same one Ford used on Taurus and some Mazda's.
I put the car up on blocks, and I attempted to disconnect the tank connections. But, my fingers are not 8" long. I couldn't move around enough to get a long skinny screwdriver on the quick attach fuel injection type connections.
Called my local mechanic who picked up the car on his rollback ($65.) They work on Jags all the time, and charged the normal 2.7 base rate hours @ $50, or $135, to pull the tank and replace the pump. He has pulled Jag tanks before, and changing the fuel pump was relatively easy on his lift.
It's a $300 job in our area. Please remember that many service repairs on Jaguars (like brakes) are simple, normal jobs--within the capabilities of normal wrench pullers. There again, some jobs (ABS lights, driveabilty problems) take a dedicated, experienced Jaguar mechanic. It's almost like you need two sets of mechanics to maintain these cars--if you're unwilling to do the work yourself. There again, I'm fortunate to have found a good, independent service shop with Jaguar experience.
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Just got a Cartier Roadster from eBay 18k gold strap and watch worth twice what my 2001 XKR is so no way is that allowed in the garage.
Next week going to dig out the driver side engine mount without the help of my Roadster LOL!!!
I also lost a watch 10yrs ago took it of and left it under the bonnet(hood) never to be seen again!!
Next week going to dig out the driver side engine mount without the help of my Roadster LOL!!!
I also lost a watch 10yrs ago took it of and left it under the bonnet(hood) never to be seen again!!
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2001 XK8 with 65K miles. Pulled in for gas and turned off the engine. Restarting, it would crank and rumble but not fire up. No warnings, no restricted performance alert, nothing. Had it towed. My regular mechanic says it is a fuel pump issue, but that the problem is electrical and not the mechanical part. He also says I should replace the linkage.
Can anyone tell me more? I haven't spoken yet to the mechanic; just the front office giving me a $800-plus quote for the component and labor. Said the tank must be removed to do the job, and that alone will take 4 hours.
Does this sound right? What is the related electrical component they are likely talking about, and what linkage is involved?
I trust these guys, but still I'd like to know what others think.
Can anyone tell me more? I haven't spoken yet to the mechanic; just the front office giving me a $800-plus quote for the component and labor. Said the tank must be removed to do the job, and that alone will take 4 hours.
Does this sound right? What is the related electrical component they are likely talking about, and what linkage is involved?
I trust these guys, but still I'd like to know what others think.
The symptoms and diagnosis of my car was the same as yours. Had the fuel pump, filter etc replaced a couple of weeks ago and posted the cost breakdown on this site. At my local shop that does work on Jags - it came to about $1000 so your quote sounds good.
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