I thought it was only rumors about the new Jaguar design
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Now, isn't it interesting that Ford once owned Jaguar and undoubtedly, some people in each company came to know one another quite well. Suddenly a Ford comes out that looks nothing like any other Ford in history, but, amazingly similar to the newest Jaguar models, which looks nothing like any Jaguar in history. I don't think that it is happenstance.
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I dislike the newer cars, because I'm a fan of wood grain and good quality leather and comfort.For what Jaguar charge their customers, you can get a lot more with a competitor at cheaper pricing.
To me the leather is thin,seats are not as comfortable, and no wood grain or detail put into the interior.
To me the leather is thin,seats are not as comfortable, and no wood grain or detail put into the interior.
Before I bought my XF I had a 2006 XJ-L. It was beautiful but if I heard one more time it was an old mans car, nice but dated, I was going to drive it off a cliff!! I certainly don't hear that anymore with my XF!
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Also this. Let's not forget where Porsche might be today, and what the 911 would be today, if it were not for the Cayenne. Or even the Boxster for that matter. And the Panamera now! Serious revenue inflow + empowered R&D = being allowed to perfect your core competence.
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You guys know that we have a subforum dedicated to the CX17 CX17 - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum ??
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I'm so tired if all this wailing and gnashing of teeth over the new direction jaguar has taken and it attempt to compete with its main competitors, BMW and MERC. Those companies have such success because they have extensive ranges of vehicles and keep revenue flowing because of that.
Early on, While ford owned Jaguar, the popular looks was retro inspire cars, just modernized and they probably encouraged Jaguar to do the same. Face it. Every car designed under the ford era is simply a rehash of something that jaguar had success with in the past. The first XK100 was a sad attempt to cash in on the XKE. It could have been a true stunner if not for the rear end and the damn gold club requirement. But it was still a retro XKE. Same with the S type and X type. Nothing new there in the style dept. just a rehash of a 66 S type and a shrunken XJ. And the poor old XJ line. Damn thing couldn't get a new suit until Ian Callum got his hands on it. (After his being required to attempt a final facelift on the aging body) That body style was soooooo worn out. Hardly a person under 40 even glanced at jaguar EXCEPT for th XK!
I owned all of those models as well (because that's all they offered) but not a day went by with any of them that I wasn't told they were dated, unless the comment came from someone 50 or over. And now the situation is reversed. It's the older people that tell me to my face they hate the new XF I drive and and the under 50 set literally salivate. To each his own and I love all the jaguar models, old and new, and look forward to jaguar FINALLY putting some real fear in BMW and MERC shoes! (Btw, I'm 49 so I'm not bashing 50 year olds!!lol)
Early on, While ford owned Jaguar, the popular looks was retro inspire cars, just modernized and they probably encouraged Jaguar to do the same. Face it. Every car designed under the ford era is simply a rehash of something that jaguar had success with in the past. The first XK100 was a sad attempt to cash in on the XKE. It could have been a true stunner if not for the rear end and the damn gold club requirement. But it was still a retro XKE. Same with the S type and X type. Nothing new there in the style dept. just a rehash of a 66 S type and a shrunken XJ. And the poor old XJ line. Damn thing couldn't get a new suit until Ian Callum got his hands on it. (After his being required to attempt a final facelift on the aging body) That body style was soooooo worn out. Hardly a person under 40 even glanced at jaguar EXCEPT for th XK!
I owned all of those models as well (because that's all they offered) but not a day went by with any of them that I wasn't told they were dated, unless the comment came from someone 50 or over. And now the situation is reversed. It's the older people that tell me to my face they hate the new XF I drive and and the under 50 set literally salivate. To each his own and I love all the jaguar models, old and new, and look forward to jaguar FINALLY putting some real fear in BMW and MERC shoes! (Btw, I'm 49 so I'm not bashing 50 year olds!!lol)
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The problem then is, when presented with the engineering task to produce a vehicle that fits those requirements, it represents a completely new design style than Jaguar has ever had before. I mean, there is only so much that you can do to build a four door SUV and try to maintain the traditional Jaguar style, which has never had such a vehicle before.
I, as much as anyone else, loves and respects the "traditional" Jaguar look, that our cars exhibit, but at the same time, I realize that to compete in today's marketplace, they had to design an SUV that was what the thirty to forty year old professional person looking for an SUV would be attracted to.
It is a new era guys, be happy that we have the last gasp of the old traditional Jaguars ever produced. That is what will cement our cars as classics for all time.
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I like both old and new designs, except for the S-type. What get's me now is the car itself. I had an oportunity to drive dad's new acquisition, a silver XF supercharged. While it drives great, looks great, goes like stink, and oh my god that engine, the car gave me a german feeling to it, which was odd. I know there's nothing german about it, but somehow there is.
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Anyway, I had hoped that "Jaguar Land Rover" as an auto company would mean that Land Rover would pick up the SUV end of the deal to let Jaguar do what it does best. And that together they'd have the synergy to make it economically practical. Apparently not.
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