Introduction from a guy looking for an XKR
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Hi folks, my name is Michael. I've got a bug to buy an XKR. I would prefer a coupe because... well, because coupe. But convertibles are more plentiful, it will make the wife happy, and I do like convertibles after all. This car will be a weekend/occasional toy, so practicality doesn't really figure in.
So, I grew up with Jaguars. My dad had a 1953 XK-120 that he sold to his brother and after the dash/electrics caught on fire he bought it back, and he kept that until I was about 8. Somewhere there's a picture of me standing in the empty engine bay digging out grease with a little screwdriver. We also stripped about 8 different colors of paint from that sucker, and he sold it in 1969 to buy an XK-E. We kept that car long enough that I learned how to change and set points, rebuild calipers and learned to drive a manual transmission, as well as listening to my father use creative profanity to express his frustration with working on that car. I remember the second time we did a clutch on it, how angry he got. Someone told him that a Chevy clutch would fit, and it almost did...
So, throughout college my dream car was the XJ-S so when I was about 30 or so I bought one, at night, without a PPI. Wow, what a nightmare that car was. As my mechanic told me, nothing but the finest British parts fall off of a Jaguar. I had that car for a year and a half, and in that time there was a two week period in which everything worked. Otherwise, I was always chasing something, be it a water leak, failing electronics or no-start condition.
In the mid aughts, for no particular reason that I can remember, I bought an XJ8. It was a solid car, built like a Ford with about as much character and charm. My GF (now the wife) loved it, but I found it to be a huge snore.
Since then I have toyed with the idea of buying another XJ-S, or a more modern edition in the XK8. However, I've driven the XK-R a few times and I do enjoy my horsepower, so it looks like that will be my target.
Speaking of targets, I'm looking at the X100 because I prefer the body style and interior appointments, and from my limited knowledge and fear of internal engine repairs, I'm going to focus on 2003-2006 cars.
Anyone in the RDU area that can recommend an indy shop to perform a PPI for when I find something, please let me know.
I'm mostly a BMW guy, as you can tell from my name and avatar, but I don't like the direction that they're going in and their "sports" models are just too stiff, too loud and too uncomfortable. I've BTDT with Corvettes and Porsches, which are great cars but just too difficult to get in and out of, and just too darn expensive. Recently I bought a Mustang GT for my track days, which is surprisingly more fun that I expected it to be. The wife has a BMW and a Jeep Wrangler, which I hate with every bone in my body. It does well in that one day every 3 years that we have snow, but I won't drive it otherwise.
Seems to me that an older XKR is a real bargain, assuming of course that it doesn't turn into a money pit. I always advise people to buy the best car that they can, but I'd really like to keep the expenditure down on this one, since it will be car #5 and I'm running out of space...
So, I grew up with Jaguars. My dad had a 1953 XK-120 that he sold to his brother and after the dash/electrics caught on fire he bought it back, and he kept that until I was about 8. Somewhere there's a picture of me standing in the empty engine bay digging out grease with a little screwdriver. We also stripped about 8 different colors of paint from that sucker, and he sold it in 1969 to buy an XK-E. We kept that car long enough that I learned how to change and set points, rebuild calipers and learned to drive a manual transmission, as well as listening to my father use creative profanity to express his frustration with working on that car. I remember the second time we did a clutch on it, how angry he got. Someone told him that a Chevy clutch would fit, and it almost did...
So, throughout college my dream car was the XJ-S so when I was about 30 or so I bought one, at night, without a PPI. Wow, what a nightmare that car was. As my mechanic told me, nothing but the finest British parts fall off of a Jaguar. I had that car for a year and a half, and in that time there was a two week period in which everything worked. Otherwise, I was always chasing something, be it a water leak, failing electronics or no-start condition.
In the mid aughts, for no particular reason that I can remember, I bought an XJ8. It was a solid car, built like a Ford with about as much character and charm. My GF (now the wife) loved it, but I found it to be a huge snore.
Since then I have toyed with the idea of buying another XJ-S, or a more modern edition in the XK8. However, I've driven the XK-R a few times and I do enjoy my horsepower, so it looks like that will be my target.
Speaking of targets, I'm looking at the X100 because I prefer the body style and interior appointments, and from my limited knowledge and fear of internal engine repairs, I'm going to focus on 2003-2006 cars.
Anyone in the RDU area that can recommend an indy shop to perform a PPI for when I find something, please let me know.
I'm mostly a BMW guy, as you can tell from my name and avatar, but I don't like the direction that they're going in and their "sports" models are just too stiff, too loud and too uncomfortable. I've BTDT with Corvettes and Porsches, which are great cars but just too difficult to get in and out of, and just too darn expensive. Recently I bought a Mustang GT for my track days, which is surprisingly more fun that I expected it to be. The wife has a BMW and a Jeep Wrangler, which I hate with every bone in my body. It does well in that one day every 3 years that we have snow, but I won't drive it otherwise.
Seems to me that an older XKR is a real bargain, assuming of course that it doesn't turn into a money pit. I always advise people to buy the best car that they can, but I'd really like to keep the expenditure down on this one, since it will be car #5 and I'm running out of space...
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I was in your shoes 3 years ago, except that I needed my target XKRto be a daily driver.
When I did the research on known faults, google took me to this forum, which was a lifesaver.
what I learned was to first find a car that had the more pricey known Faults repaired by a previous owner.
Those are: cam chain tensioners, and the water pump,
I found such a car & it’s been a joy to own with very little trouble, especially for a 20 year old
good luck in your search
Z
PS. No rust issues, or you’ll be upside down very quickly
When I did the research on known faults, google took me to this forum, which was a lifesaver.
what I learned was to first find a car that had the more pricey known Faults repaired by a previous owner.
Those are: cam chain tensioners, and the water pump,
I found such a car & it’s been a joy to own with very little trouble, especially for a 20 year old
good luck in your search
Z
PS. No rust issues, or you’ll be upside down very quickly
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BimmerGuy (09-14-2020)
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Would you be interested in a super clean, always garaged, never smoked in, meticulously maintained 2011 XKR convertible?
It kills me to sell her, but recently moved to a rural mountain house with 4x4 only road access.
"Stella" is Polaris white with the black performance package, only 41k highway miles, battery is 5 months old, tires have less than 2k miles on them. I can send photos if you're interested.
It kills me to sell her, but recently moved to a rural mountain house with 4x4 only road access.
"Stella" is Polaris white with the black performance package, only 41k highway miles, battery is 5 months old, tires have less than 2k miles on them. I can send photos if you're interested.
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Honestly, you're targeting a good car for your needs. The 4.2L SC cars are really as solid as they come; you can save money with the 4L XKRs, but the price gap is not enough right now. I own a 4L X100 XKR and a 4.2L X150 XKR; the 4.2L drivetrain is rock solid, where you have to do some upgrades of timing bits and water pump on the 4L XKR motor. An 03-06 were really as good as these cars got. Basically other than the green shower possibility in convertibles, they had resolved the design faults.
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The X100 and X150 are both excellent choices, especially compared to the BMWs in segment, such as the M6 with its sketch bottom end, or even the V8 with carbon issues. Just good cars; and I'm not trying to hate on BMW, I desperately wish the e63 were a better car.
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BimmerGuy (09-15-2020)
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Hey Billy, I saw that car in the classifieds. It's too expensive, and I don't care for silver, and I don't like the wheels. I'm also honestly a little concerned as it appears to have been sitting for quite a while, which is never good for a car. Thanks for the suggestion though.
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Thanks @Jaaagtime . The old 8 is a huge, overly complex fat pig, maintenance nightmare that looks dated. The new 8 (I came close to buying one earlier this year) is a wonder of technology and drives fantastic. I just couldn't justify the price.
I will say I LOVED my 2 e38s (a 95 740i and a 01 750iL). I hoped I would enjoy my e83 X3 but honestly never have liked it and I just let my dad drive it; I like my Jetta TDI Sportwagen more. Other than maybe the e63 and up 6 Series and all generations of 8 series, they haven't been doing it for me
The X100 and X150 are both excellent choices, especially compared to the BMWs in segment, such as the M6 with its sketch bottom end, or even the V8 with carbon issues. Just good cars; and I'm not trying to hate on BMW, I desperately wish the e63 were a better car.
The X100 and X150 are both excellent choices, especially compared to the BMWs in segment, such as the M6 with its sketch bottom end, or even the V8 with carbon issues. Just good cars; and I'm not trying to hate on BMW, I desperately wish the e63 were a better car.
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Bought this from another Vietnam veteran’s family after he passed through their broker friend. I am the 7th owner. He purchased the car out west and flew there to pick it up. When driving home, he hit a small animal and messed up part of the grill and front area under the right headlight. After repairs and the car was at his home, he enjoyed it for a while and unfortunately passed away. The car sat and when I got it to my home, it was running poorly. Traced it down to the fuel pumps and lots of fuses. The pumps are in the tank and I had to pull the tank out to replace both. Took a while but fortunately I have a lift so it was not as bad as it could have been. Installed a Mina grille and fixed up all the dents and scratches and had the entire car repainted. Had the seats professionally refurbished a few months ago and all services are up to date. This Jaguar runs great and is very fast. Must sell, too many cars so selling this and another one. Installed the center council upgrade. 53,500 miles. You will need to do the repair the electric raise/lower on the headrests as is common on this model. It is a DIY project and little to no cost. It is a great car and has good tires and a new extra matching wheel and 2 extra new BBS rim protectors. The engine number is 010813HHMM and was built AFTER the change over to the primary and secondary metal tensioners as well as the plastic finned water pump impeller. Last Jaguar service check Apr, 2020 at 53600 miles. Car was scratched badly on passenger side while parked and side swiped. Was repaired at great body shop in May 2019. 2 new tires Nov 2018. Water pump and valve cover gaskets replaced as well as oil changed. No leaks on underside of vehicle. Not driven in Winter conditions. This is great Jaguar and a modern classic. There are no dings or dents on the car now. Comes with a cover for use in the summer when the top is down. MAKE ME AN OFFER I CAN'T REFUSE.... DRIVE IT HOME. Title is clear. Vin: SAJDA42B82PA25845 I'm asking $13,500.00 But !!!
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P.S. I belong to the Carolina Jag club if you need a link to them let me know.
Ken
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https://photos.google.com/album/AF1Q...IYETzmLYzVVbKn
P.S. I belong to the Carolina Jag club if you need a link to them let me know.
Ken
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Hi folks, my name is Michael. I've got a bug to buy an XKR. I would prefer a coupe because... well, because coupe. But convertibles are more plentiful, it will make the wife happy, and I do like convertibles after all. This car will be a weekend/occasional toy, so practicality doesn't really figure in.
So, I grew up with Jaguars. My dad had a 1953 XK-120 that he sold to his brother and after the dash/electrics caught on fire he bought it back, and he kept that until I was about 8. Somewhere there's a picture of me standing in the empty engine bay digging out grease with a little screwdriver. We also stripped about 8 different colors of paint from that sucker, and he sold it in 1969 to buy an XK-E. We kept that car long enough that I learned how to change and set points, rebuild calipers and learned to drive a manual transmission, as well as listening to my father use creative profanity to express his frustration with working on that car. I remember the second time we did a clutch on it, how angry he got. Someone told him that a Chevy clutch would fit, and it almost did...
So, throughout college my dream car was the XJ-S so when I was about 30 or so I bought one, at night, without a PPI. Wow, what a nightmare that car was. As my mechanic told me, nothing but the finest British parts fall off of a Jaguar. I had that car for a year and a half, and in that time there was a two week period in which everything worked. Otherwise, I was always chasing something, be it a water leak, failing electronics or no-start condition.
In the mid aughts, for no particular reason that I can remember, I bought an XJ8. It was a solid car, built like a Ford with about as much character and charm. My GF (now the wife) loved it, but I found it to be a huge snore.
Since then I have toyed with the idea of buying another XJ-S, or a more modern edition in the XK8. However, I've driven the XK-R a few times and I do enjoy my horsepower, so it looks like that will be my target.
Speaking of targets, I'm looking at the X100 because I prefer the body style and interior appointments, and from my limited knowledge and fear of internal engine repairs, I'm going to focus on 2003-2006 cars.
Anyone in the RDU area that can recommend an indy shop to perform a PPI for when I find something, please let me know.
I'm mostly a BMW guy, as you can tell from my name and avatar, but I don't like the direction that they're going in and their "sports" models are just too stiff, too loud and too uncomfortable. I've BTDT with Corvettes and Porsches, which are great cars but just too difficult to get in and out of, and just too darn expensive. Recently I bought a Mustang GT for my track days, which is surprisingly more fun that I expected it to be. The wife has a BMW and a Jeep Wrangler, which I hate with every bone in my body. It does well in that one day every 3 years that we have snow, but I won't drive it otherwise.
Seems to me that an older XKR is a real bargain, assuming of course that it doesn't turn into a money pit. I always advise people to buy the best car that they can, but I'd really like to keep the expenditure down on this one, since it will be car #5 and I'm running out of space...
So, I grew up with Jaguars. My dad had a 1953 XK-120 that he sold to his brother and after the dash/electrics caught on fire he bought it back, and he kept that until I was about 8. Somewhere there's a picture of me standing in the empty engine bay digging out grease with a little screwdriver. We also stripped about 8 different colors of paint from that sucker, and he sold it in 1969 to buy an XK-E. We kept that car long enough that I learned how to change and set points, rebuild calipers and learned to drive a manual transmission, as well as listening to my father use creative profanity to express his frustration with working on that car. I remember the second time we did a clutch on it, how angry he got. Someone told him that a Chevy clutch would fit, and it almost did...
So, throughout college my dream car was the XJ-S so when I was about 30 or so I bought one, at night, without a PPI. Wow, what a nightmare that car was. As my mechanic told me, nothing but the finest British parts fall off of a Jaguar. I had that car for a year and a half, and in that time there was a two week period in which everything worked. Otherwise, I was always chasing something, be it a water leak, failing electronics or no-start condition.
In the mid aughts, for no particular reason that I can remember, I bought an XJ8. It was a solid car, built like a Ford with about as much character and charm. My GF (now the wife) loved it, but I found it to be a huge snore.
Since then I have toyed with the idea of buying another XJ-S, or a more modern edition in the XK8. However, I've driven the XK-R a few times and I do enjoy my horsepower, so it looks like that will be my target.
Speaking of targets, I'm looking at the X100 because I prefer the body style and interior appointments, and from my limited knowledge and fear of internal engine repairs, I'm going to focus on 2003-2006 cars.
Anyone in the RDU area that can recommend an indy shop to perform a PPI for when I find something, please let me know.
I'm mostly a BMW guy, as you can tell from my name and avatar, but I don't like the direction that they're going in and their "sports" models are just too stiff, too loud and too uncomfortable. I've BTDT with Corvettes and Porsches, which are great cars but just too difficult to get in and out of, and just too darn expensive. Recently I bought a Mustang GT for my track days, which is surprisingly more fun that I expected it to be. The wife has a BMW and a Jeep Wrangler, which I hate with every bone in my body. It does well in that one day every 3 years that we have snow, but I won't drive it otherwise.
Seems to me that an older XKR is a real bargain, assuming of course that it doesn't turn into a money pit. I always advise people to buy the best car that they can, but I'd really like to keep the expenditure down on this one, since it will be car #5 and I'm running out of space...
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I used to own a 1991 BMW 850 with a V12 under the bonnet. I now own a Victory Edition Hard Top Coupe 2006 XKR, the last of the x100 body style. This ZF transmission is a phenom and a beast at the same time, the power has never been delivered in such a smooth and uncompromising manner, the suspension is over the top. There is no comparison unless you go upwards in the British manufacturers, I'm sure those rides are even better than the JAG.
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1C. I live closer to Raleigh.
2C. My route will not take me through Oklahoma.
3C. One of my cars is black. Zray's appears to be blue.
Bonus points for Zray:
1Z. His is an XKR, all of mine are XK8's. Mitigating factor, one of my previous cars had an 8.2 liter engine.
I'll just switch class to online and make every day a field trip....
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