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randyb your frustration came thru loud and clear. I think we all have felt that way at one time at some level or another. Let me echo tberg's sentiment that I hope you come up with a solution so that it finally becomes reliable and a joy rather than a nightmare.
Plenty of good folks here willing to help and provide support, even when we forget the times we were frustrated ourselves. Good luck whatever you decide to do.
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Researching the XK before I bought mine 12 months ago told me to expect an uncertain maintenance outlay, as opposed to my VW Passat which is my daily drive (which I've had 5 years now and only spent out on replacement tyres - over and above annual servicing - which is phenomenal!!).
So far, I've covered 5,000 miles in that time, and including the 2 new tires I needed to get my XKR thru its MOT, I've recorded spending £800 in that time which I don't think is too bad. That works out to be £0.16 per mile. It is indeed a frustrating car a times as far as their always seems to something needing looking at, but thankfully for me its mainly been little niggly things. Over the next 12 months if my maintenance costs come in under £800 again (around £60 per month) I'll be more than happy, but I know one day in the years to come something bigger WILL show its face, and I'm trying to put what I can aside each month to cover those (probable) future costs.
The difference is, I took the XKR to work today (90 mile round trip) and loved every second even when stuck in traffic, but tomorrow I'll take the VW and be bored stupid!
WORTH EVERY PENNY!
So far, I've covered 5,000 miles in that time, and including the 2 new tires I needed to get my XKR thru its MOT, I've recorded spending £800 in that time which I don't think is too bad. That works out to be £0.16 per mile. It is indeed a frustrating car a times as far as their always seems to something needing looking at, but thankfully for me its mainly been little niggly things. Over the next 12 months if my maintenance costs come in under £800 again (around £60 per month) I'll be more than happy, but I know one day in the years to come something bigger WILL show its face, and I'm trying to put what I can aside each month to cover those (probable) future costs.
The difference is, I took the XKR to work today (90 mile round trip) and loved every second even when stuck in traffic, but tomorrow I'll take the VW and be bored stupid!
WORTH EVERY PENNY!
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David
Don't worry for every problem you see on this forums there's thousands of other Jags running fine most of the people that frequent the forums are having problems. Go to any other enthusiast forum and you would think every vehicles junk. Drive it home. I drove mine home over 1000 miles after buying it. it'll help you appreciate the car more.
Don't worry for every problem you see on this forums there's thousands of other Jags running fine most of the people that frequent the forums are having problems. Go to any other enthusiast forum and you would think every vehicles junk. Drive it home. I drove mine home over 1000 miles after buying it. it'll help you appreciate the car more.
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DNJAA,
In 9 months I have had virtually no un-anticipated issues. The engine runs sweet and smooth and I'm happy every time I get in the car. If you buy a good one with the typical problems fixed you should be fine. I do agree that if you read everything on the Forum you can become a hypocondriac and every time you hear a squeak you want to panic that something awful is about to happen.
In 9 months I have had virtually no un-anticipated issues. The engine runs sweet and smooth and I'm happy every time I get in the car. If you buy a good one with the typical problems fixed you should be fine. I do agree that if you read everything on the Forum you can become a hypocondriac and every time you hear a squeak you want to panic that something awful is about to happen.
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I drove mine home for 11 hours last September. I was nervous for 2 of them and smiling for 9 hours and 9 months since! Have a great day! Jac
PS- Randy, hang in there, that beautiful machine sounds like it is in it's 'turnover". At some point a lot of stuff needs to be replaced and once it is, the car gets its second life and can go like it did originally until Round 3 strikes.
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DNJAA,
2 Months ago I made a similar trip home with my XK8 and I had a border and customs to deal with. I made a list of all the Jaguar dealers and their phone numbers on my route home. I had one issue and that was resolved over the phone with a wonderful service technician in Scarborough Maine. Just knowing where I could go if I had an issue help ease my fears. Two months later I couldn't be happier with my purchase. Other than maintenance and fluid changes I haven't spent a nickel. She is a wonderful ride and gathers admirers whenever I stop. The previous owner sold her because of an annoying rattle in the dash that the dealer couldn't solve. With the help of this forum I fixed it before I left the lot. I have to admit I spend much more time tinkering on the jag than I do on my other 3 cars combined, but that's because I want to keep her as perfect as possible and want her to last a long, long time.
2 Months ago I made a similar trip home with my XK8 and I had a border and customs to deal with. I made a list of all the Jaguar dealers and their phone numbers on my route home. I had one issue and that was resolved over the phone with a wonderful service technician in Scarborough Maine. Just knowing where I could go if I had an issue help ease my fears. Two months later I couldn't be happier with my purchase. Other than maintenance and fluid changes I haven't spent a nickel. She is a wonderful ride and gathers admirers whenever I stop. The previous owner sold her because of an annoying rattle in the dash that the dealer couldn't solve. With the help of this forum I fixed it before I left the lot. I have to admit I spend much more time tinkering on the jag than I do on my other 3 cars combined, but that's because I want to keep her as perfect as possible and want her to last a long, long time.
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Good point.
I remember going thru the "75k miles blues" or "100k mile blues" on a few cars, including my XJR. Lots of problems cropping up on top of each other followed by smooth sailing for a good long period afterwards.
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DD
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I agree, that's a really good point. When my wife's BMW 7 hit ~130K miles, we put $9000 into maintenance -- top and front engine seals, hoses, new driveshaft, new brakes all around, rebuilt suspension, ... People thought we were crazy, "Why did you do that? $9K makes a good down payment on a new car." There's the two key words, 'down payment.' For a paltry $9k we have a fantastic car that drives better than the day we bought it. It just passed 170k miles and is still running strong.
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I had expected that a car in the $75K plus price range would have used less pieces of breakable plastic than I have found and that things like hydraulic hoses for the convertible top would have been better engineered and that idiot false warning messages due to touchy electrical/computer components would not be so prevalent. Still the basic drivetrain components seem pretty solid.
Doug
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I have to say I tend to agree with the constant issues! My frustrations seem to be small illusive issues that my Indy mechanic nor Jag dealer can seem to find! I've basicly replaced the entire coolant system, save the pump, and I STILL smell that damn hot coolant smell. I'm really counting on the last replacement, octopus hose, to be the one. Coolant got in a few places we couldn't get to to clean so I'm telling myself that's what I'm smelling and it will be burned off eventually.
I recently found out My 02 was owned by a female hair stylist that NEVER had ANY maintainance carried out on it in her 40k miles of driving, leaving me to deal with a lot of issues. I'm hoping it's about finished surprising me for a while. And actually, some of the things I've had done were not necessarily imperative to driving it. The only thing I'm burning candles for right now is the transmission. It runs as smooth as silk but I'm nearing 100k so....... From what I understand, these usually give NO warning and the damage is final.
But at the end of the day, I l O V E T H I S C A R!! at 18 my first car in 1981 was a 68 XKE. Now that is a way to be broken in to owning a JAGUAR!!!
I recently found out My 02 was owned by a female hair stylist that NEVER had ANY maintainance carried out on it in her 40k miles of driving, leaving me to deal with a lot of issues. I'm hoping it's about finished surprising me for a while. And actually, some of the things I've had done were not necessarily imperative to driving it. The only thing I'm burning candles for right now is the transmission. It runs as smooth as silk but I'm nearing 100k so....... From what I understand, these usually give NO warning and the damage is final.
But at the end of the day, I l O V E T H I S C A R!! at 18 my first car in 1981 was a 68 XKE. Now that is a way to be broken in to owning a JAGUAR!!!
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This is a bummer and no way to get a relationship with your car started!
Maybe one of the officers from the attached JCNA group in Michigan would have knowledge of someone around town there. You could also try a shout out to the midwest group on the forum here- although it may be too late.
My fuel pump died two weeks ago. What are your symptoms? If there is no pressure at the fuel rail then clearly something is keeping fuel from getting to the engine (I am pretty sure you have Schraeder valve under the decorative pastic engine piece on the passenger side toward the back (firewall end) of the engine: they should be able to tell quickly if you have no fuel pressure, low fuel pressure, or a lot of fuel pressure) If you have the owners manual you can see where the fuses and relays are and try swapping those out first. Maybe you get lucky and it is one of those. If it is sputtering it might be a blocked fuel filter. If it is the pump and the local non-jag shop is going to do it give them Gus' write up on the fuel pump replacement and show them the video of how to do it from Reverend Sam. I used Sams push stick (actually AVos' push stick idea) combined with the little plastic disc tool shown in Gus' writeup and had a pretty easy time freeing up the fuel lines beneath the car. It should help them tremendously and save you some labor time hopefully. I hope it turns out OK for you. Jac
This is a bummer and no way to get a relationship with your car started!
Maybe one of the officers from the attached JCNA group in Michigan would have knowledge of someone around town there. You could also try a shout out to the midwest group on the forum here- although it may be too late.
My fuel pump died two weeks ago. What are your symptoms? If there is no pressure at the fuel rail then clearly something is keeping fuel from getting to the engine (I am pretty sure you have Schraeder valve under the decorative pastic engine piece on the passenger side toward the back (firewall end) of the engine: they should be able to tell quickly if you have no fuel pressure, low fuel pressure, or a lot of fuel pressure) If you have the owners manual you can see where the fuses and relays are and try swapping those out first. Maybe you get lucky and it is one of those. If it is sputtering it might be a blocked fuel filter. If it is the pump and the local non-jag shop is going to do it give them Gus' write up on the fuel pump replacement and show them the video of how to do it from Reverend Sam. I used Sams push stick (actually AVos' push stick idea) combined with the little plastic disc tool shown in Gus' writeup and had a pretty easy time freeing up the fuel lines beneath the car. It should help them tremendously and save you some labor time hopefully. I hope it turns out OK for you. Jac
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