Jaguar Officially Announces 2013 F-Type For Production Convertible First
#21
09-26-2012, 05:28 AM
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I hope they sell loads. There's a lot riding on this car and Jaguar's reputation. It has to follow a legend....
But as others have said, it's hardly ground breaking. Ian Callum and the design team have stayed on the conservative side. Dare I say it, it's a girls car, it'll appeal to the 'footballer's wives' type....
Back to stick shift, no twiddly dial, that's a plus.
Although it reached over 190mph at Nardo in testing so no slouch.
I'll await seeing it in the flesh, in the school car park no doubt
But as others have said, it's hardly ground breaking. Ian Callum and the design team have stayed on the conservative side. Dare I say it, it's a girls car, it'll appeal to the 'footballer's wives' type....
Back to stick shift, no twiddly dial, that's a plus.
Although it reached over 190mph at Nardo in testing so no slouch.
I'll await seeing it in the flesh, in the school car park no doubt
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09-26-2012, 01:58 PM
#23
09-26-2012, 02:40 PM
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That's a good looking car, especially from the rear.
Looks like they decided to get rid of the "rear seat", but from the side, it looks a lot like the small BMW and some of the other small two seaters with a sort of bob tailed look.
I know that our rear seats are essentially a package holding area, and not real rear seats, but I like that little bit of extra length that gives it a bit of sleekness from the side.
I am thinking that this car, if produced as we see in these photos, would be more a legitimate sports car, rather than a GT.
Looks like they decided to get rid of the "rear seat", but from the side, it looks a lot like the small BMW and some of the other small two seaters with a sort of bob tailed look.
I know that our rear seats are essentially a package holding area, and not real rear seats, but I like that little bit of extra length that gives it a bit of sleekness from the side.
I am thinking that this car, if produced as we see in these photos, would be more a legitimate sports car, rather than a GT.
In europe where they do backwards things like taxing vehicles based on engine displacement (and 2000cc is considered a LARGE car), as well as excise luxury taxes, there was / is a specific tax on two seat cars, due to their impractical nature.
Porsche was the first to get around this with their little "jump" seats in the rear of a 911. Effectively making it a 2+2.
Mercedes did it with the SL. Actually only for the European market were the rear seats installed. For the North American market cars, they removed the rear seat - because it had not tax advantage, and they couldn't get the rear seats to pass occupant safety standards... So they just put a shelf back there. Ironically that seat sells for decent coin when one ends up in North America.
Jaguar just followed suit.
Take care,
George
#24
09-26-2012, 03:30 PM
The rear seat was always a "tax dodge"
In europe where they do backwards things like taxing vehicles based on engine displacement (and 2000cc is considered a LARGE car), as well as excise luxury taxes, there was / is a specific tax on two seat cars, due to their impractical nature.
Porsche was the first to get around this with their little "jump" seats in the rear of a 911. Effectively making it a 2+2.
Mercedes did it with the SL. Actually only for the European market were the rear seats installed. For the North American market cars, they removed the rear seat - because it had not tax advantage, and they couldn't get the rear seats to pass occupant safety standards... So they just put a shelf back there. Ironically that seat sells for decent coin when one ends up in North America.
Jaguar just followed suit.
Take care,
George
In europe where they do backwards things like taxing vehicles based on engine displacement (and 2000cc is considered a LARGE car), as well as excise luxury taxes, there was / is a specific tax on two seat cars, due to their impractical nature.
Porsche was the first to get around this with their little "jump" seats in the rear of a 911. Effectively making it a 2+2.
Mercedes did it with the SL. Actually only for the European market were the rear seats installed. For the North American market cars, they removed the rear seat - because it had not tax advantage, and they couldn't get the rear seats to pass occupant safety standards... So they just put a shelf back there. Ironically that seat sells for decent coin when one ends up in North America.
Jaguar just followed suit.
Take care,
George
My friend who owned one a few years ago told me that he was told it was because being a four seater instead of a two seater brought the insurance down. I was never too sure about that, even though it may in fact be true to an extent. The "tax dodge" sounds more plausible.
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09-26-2012, 04:56 PM
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09-26-2012, 11:37 PM
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F-TYPE S (380 HP): Takes the supercharged 3.0-liter V6 experience to another level, with a range of dynamic enhancements and greater levels of performance.
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