"Jurid" brake pads. WTF?
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"Jurid" brake pads. WTF?
Had a set of JLM21917 "Jurid" brake pads put on. When I inquired as to the composition of said pads, I was informed they are made from "organic materials"!
Organic brake pads? WTF? Is this why they dust so bad?
Anyone know anything about these, good or bad?
Thanks
Organic brake pads? WTF? Is this why they dust so bad?
Anyone know anything about these, good or bad?
Thanks
#2
Organics are used less these days and used to contain asbestos. They wear faster and do not stop as well as other types, but are generally cheaper. I would not use them on our cars as they are fast and heavy, things organics do not like.
I think Jurids used to be OEM for some german cars, but suspect that was long ago. Don't really know much about them.
Get semi-metallic or ceramic depending on how you drive. Semi-metallics are what I use and they do fine for normal driving.
I think Jurids used to be OEM for some german cars, but suspect that was long ago. Don't really know much about them.
Get semi-metallic or ceramic depending on how you drive. Semi-metallics are what I use and they do fine for normal driving.
#3
There really are NO brake pads made of asbestos anymore. They are all basically organic material, with varying degrees of hardness and metal fragments. The soft pads create more black dust on your wheels, but generally stop great, but wear more. The hard pads dont make as much dust, wear longer, but are more prone to noise. Metallic and semi metallic give the best stopping performance, but do increase the wear on the discs. So, your average sedan will have relatively hard semi-metallic pads... for long life and decent stopping. Cars like the Jag and BMW will typically use a softer metallic pad for great stopping and less noise. Jurid brand is a standard replacement type available from major suppliers. They seem to be rather hard. In my experience, they will typically squeak or squeal after some time passes. I recommend using whatever anti-squeal material you can find to spread on the back to reduce that possibility. The Textar pads are pretty good, and I have never had those make noise. I'm sure there are many others as well.
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My wife's former 2004 Lexus RX330 AWD SUV's factory pads were designated as organic. I always joked that instead of asbestos, they contained bean sprouts and chicken ****. For some reason she did not appreciate that....
Those factory pads were quiet, generated very little brake dust, and lasted more than 70,000 miles. So there must be different grades of organic pads just as there are different grades of semi-metallic pads....
Those factory pads were quiet, generated very little brake dust, and lasted more than 70,000 miles. So there must be different grades of organic pads just as there are different grades of semi-metallic pads....
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Yes.
Out of curioisty I did some quick (and possibly incomplete) checking and it appears that the JLM21917 pads replace MJE2001AB pads which replace JLM1829 pads.
I can't say if these are official supercessions or "Here.....take these...they oughta be OK" substitutions. Looks like the 1829s were more expensive which could make off-the-cuff substitutions very tempting.
Anyhow, it's a fair bet the the different part numbers represent a different supplier and/or different materials.
Cheers
DD
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Yes.
Out of curioisty I did some quick (and possibly incomplete) checking and it appears that the JLM21917 pads replace MJE2001AB pads which replace JLM1829 pads.
I can't say if these are official supercessions or "Here.....take these...they oughta be OK" substitutions. Looks like the 1829s were more expensive which could make off-the-cuff substitutions very tempting.
Anyhow, it's a fair bet the the different part numbers represent a different supplier and/or different materials.
Cheers
DD
Out of curioisty I did some quick (and possibly incomplete) checking and it appears that the JLM21917 pads replace MJE2001AB pads which replace JLM1829 pads.
I can't say if these are official supercessions or "Here.....take these...they oughta be OK" substitutions. Looks like the 1829s were more expensive which could make off-the-cuff substitutions very tempting.
Anyhow, it's a fair bet the the different part numbers represent a different supplier and/or different materials.
Cheers
DD
But I can state this;
THEY SURE ARE FRICKIN' DUSTY. I've got to clean the wheels every few days, as my wife drives it in city like conditions.
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