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Step 1: Google Elm 327. That is, the best place to start is by buying an inexpensive code reader and application for your laptop or tablet. (Or a dedicated code reader for a few bucks more.) I'm an amateur mechanic, but have found my code reader to be exceptionally accurate in diagnosing problems.
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+1 on getting a code reader and letting us know what fault codes show
How old is the battery? An aging or weak battery can lead you all over the place with error codes. Recommend getting it load tested and replace if necessary. Most batteries are good for about 3 years
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How old is the battery? An aging or weak battery can lead you all over the place with error codes. Recommend getting it load tested and replace if necessary. Most batteries are good for about 3 years
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+1,need codes to diagnose. Check battery to make sure is has 12.5v, electronics can do weird things if it gets lower.
Do you know the history of the car, has the engine been overheated?
Don't throw parts at it. Try to give us all the info you can there are some very knowledgeable members here and know the steps to take to diagnose.
And welcome to the forum.
Do you know the history of the car, has the engine been overheated?
Don't throw parts at it. Try to give us all the info you can there are some very knowledgeable members here and know the steps to take to diagnose.
And welcome to the forum.
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If you use a smart phone or have a tablet you can download Torque from your online play store for free or you can upgrade with a small fee to the full version. You will also need a Bluetooth OBDII reader and one that works well is ELM 327. This application will allow you to read your codes and fuel trims along with many other points on your car. Go to Torque and you can read all about it first.
As for your car troubles you need to read the OBDII codes to give you direction on what is going on. It was also suggested that you check the battery voltage. This is important! We all have found that our Jaguars are sensitive to low voltage and will throw codes and amber lights when voltage is not what it is looking for giving a false problem. Have the battery and connections checked first then read your codes.
As for your car troubles you need to read the OBDII codes to give you direction on what is going on. It was also suggested that you check the battery voltage. This is important! We all have found that our Jaguars are sensitive to low voltage and will throw codes and amber lights when voltage is not what it is looking for giving a false problem. Have the battery and connections checked first then read your codes.
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As the money involved is near inconsequential, start with a cheap ELM327. I believe the newer models come with both Bluetooth and Wifi, so they should work with both Android and Apple devices. Check eBay for the device (Some are less then $10 here in the US). I use Torque Pro on an Android device. The pay version is just a few $.
To be clear, even if this device is in theory compatible with all 3 hardware protocols for our cars, the software side will only show the standard codes, as codified in OBDII. This is a GREAT start that can get you most everything for emissions purposes, but none of the more advanced Jaguar-specific codes will be available in a friendly manner.
ALSO, unless you are triple sure, check the secondary chain tensioners. The early cars had plastic units that eventually would fail and let the chain skip a tooth or two and allow contact between valves and pistons. Open up a valve cover and convince yourself you have the upgraded metal units, not the original plastic ones (or even hybrid second generation). Seriously, just do it, the risk is real. Take pictures if unsure, and someone here can help you identify them.
Bonne chance, keep us posted.
To be clear, even if this device is in theory compatible with all 3 hardware protocols for our cars, the software side will only show the standard codes, as codified in OBDII. This is a GREAT start that can get you most everything for emissions purposes, but none of the more advanced Jaguar-specific codes will be available in a friendly manner.
ALSO, unless you are triple sure, check the secondary chain tensioners. The early cars had plastic units that eventually would fail and let the chain skip a tooth or two and allow contact between valves and pistons. Open up a valve cover and convince yourself you have the upgraded metal units, not the original plastic ones (or even hybrid second generation). Seriously, just do it, the risk is real. Take pictures if unsure, and someone here can help you identify them.
Bonne chance, keep us posted.
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If you get the codes you can tell which cylinders are misfiring. Then you can switch coils from bad to good and see if the misfire follows.
As I mention before do you know if the car overheated? If it did you may have dropped valve seats causing the misfire.
It could have a failing tensioner causing a misfire.
Stop buying parts and get a code reader. You might be waisting your money.
As I mention before do you know if the car overheated? If it did you may have dropped valve seats causing the misfire.
It could have a failing tensioner causing a misfire.
Stop buying parts and get a code reader. You might be waisting your money.
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Hi hampshireborn69,
ELM327 will read the codes: mine came from Amazon UK (about £5) and works just fine.
Follow all the above recommendations, and make sure you get either a combined bluetooth/WiFi unit or one that will work with your phone. I believe the iPhone is tetchy with bluetooth, so it's WiFi if Apple is your thing.
You have the best tool in your toolbox by joining this forum. The code reader will likely be your second.
Good luck with the new Cat.
Mike
ELM327 will read the codes: mine came from Amazon UK (about £5) and works just fine.
Follow all the above recommendations, and make sure you get either a combined bluetooth/WiFi unit or one that will work with your phone. I believe the iPhone is tetchy with bluetooth, so it's WiFi if Apple is your thing.
You have the best tool in your toolbox by joining this forum. The code reader will likely be your second.
Good luck with the new Cat.
Mike
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1. add Model and Year details to your forum signature - is it AJ26 or AJ27; 4.0 ltr or 4.2 ltr
2. refer the the appropriate Jaguar DTC list for code 'possible causes'
When you've identified an ignition coil issue on a particular cylinder, switch coils with one that isn't showing a code and see if the code moves with the coil. This helps narrow it down to the coil itself or the harness.
Graham
2. refer the the appropriate Jaguar DTC list for code 'possible causes'
When you've identified an ignition coil issue on a particular cylinder, switch coils with one that isn't showing a code and see if the code moves with the coil. This helps narrow it down to the coil itself or the harness.
Graham
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Probably not. You likely have more than one issue.
This document:
http://www.jagrepair.com/images/Auto...J27%201999.pdf
from member Gus' website will explain the codes for your car.
Suggest you deal with the duff A-bank coils and then take stock. I'm not certain, but you may be able to replace the knock sensors without removing the inlet manifold. More savvy members will chime in here.
Knock sensors don't seem to like coolant: as they're both complaining, is there any evidence of spills or leaky hoses?
Mike
This document:
http://www.jagrepair.com/images/Auto...J27%201999.pdf
from member Gus' website will explain the codes for your car.
Suggest you deal with the duff A-bank coils and then take stock. I'm not certain, but you may be able to replace the knock sensors without removing the inlet manifold. More savvy members will chime in here.
Knock sensors don't seem to like coolant: as they're both complaining, is there any evidence of spills or leaky hoses?
Mike