XK8 / XKR ( X100 ) 1996 - 2006

My first oil change for my 1998 XK8

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 01-31-2021, 12:29 PM
moparmusclecars's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Montana
Posts: 38
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Default My first oil change for my 1998 XK8

What is the recommended oil weight and brand to use in these car's? I just got it running, so I would like to change the oil and filter. Not even sure where the filter is located.

Best oil brand and oil weight, and also filter to use for my car?
 
  #2  
Old 01-31-2021, 12:42 PM
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Wise County,TX
Posts: 12,181
Received 8,147 Likes on 4,915 Posts
Default

Jaguar recommends 5W30
 
The following 2 users liked this post by motorcarman:
Don B (02-13-2021), srpope80 (02-06-2021)
  #3  
Old 01-31-2021, 03:58 PM
rojeho's Avatar
Member
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Palm Harbor, FL
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
Received 17 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

5W30 is the universal right answer. And the oil filter is right next to the oil drain plug. It's about the easiest car in the universe to do an oil/filter change.
 
The following 2 users liked this post by rojeho:
Higgins (02-06-2021), rsdmitch7 (02-04-2021)
  #4  
Old 02-01-2021, 02:40 AM
GGG's Avatar
GGG
GGG is offline
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Durham, UK
Posts: 120,461
Received 16,861 Likes on 12,186 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by moparmusclecars
..... Not even sure where the filter is located. .....
The filter is slightly above the alternator cooling duct (arrowed in red). There's a black plastic extension on this duct (often missing) which has to be removed (1 hex bolt) to be able to reach the filter. Filter rotates anti-clockwise to remove. Should undo by hand unless some gorilla has fitted it.





Drain plug is at the corner on the side arrowed in green. Jaguar recommend replacement at every oil change. I'm sure I've read a post from a US member advising on a source of rubber "O" rings instead of buying the whole plug.

Graham
 

Last edited by GGG; 02-01-2021 at 02:42 AM.
The following users liked this post:
Don B (02-13-2021)
  #5  
Old 02-01-2021, 07:51 AM
zray's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: on the road in NE Oklahoma
Posts: 2,832
Received 1,684 Likes on 1,000 Posts
Default

My owners manual shows a sliding scale of oil viscosity to be using depending on your climate (ambient temperature range).

for my temperature range, 0w-40 is indicated as acceptable. If your summers are over 100 F and winters under 30 F it would work well for you.

Been using Mobil 1 0w-40 for the past 3 years / 48,000 miles. I have zero oil consumption with oil - filter changes every 4,000 - 5,000 miles.


Z
 
The following 2 users liked this post by zray:
CorStevens (02-09-2021), rsdmitch7 (02-04-2021)
  #6  
Old 02-01-2021, 10:12 AM
JimmyL's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Posts: 1,787
Received 417 Likes on 308 Posts
Default

The filters are not always available at the auto chain stores, so I order mine online from Rock Auto, and get a Mahle OC 602. Just to chime in, I use 5w-30 and the level always stays right between the full and add marks after 120K miles.
 

Last edited by JimmyL; 02-01-2021 at 10:14 AM. Reason: formatting
The following users liked this post:
rsdmitch7 (02-04-2021)
  #7  
Old 02-01-2021, 10:41 AM
GGG's Avatar
GGG
GGG is offline
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Durham, UK
Posts: 120,461
Received 16,861 Likes on 12,186 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JimmyL
The filters are not always available at the auto chain stores, so I order mine online from Rock Auto, and get a Mahle OC 602. ......
That reminds me about the oil filter. Jaguar OE filter has a non-return valve to assist in rapid oil presssure build up from a cold start. Several aftermarket filters will physically fit but make sure you get one with a non-return valve.

The non-return valve is not as technical as it may sound. It's a plastic flap that prevents oil draining back out of the filter so it doesn't need to fill again on starting before delivering oil to bearings etc.

Graham
 
The following 3 users liked this post by GGG:
Don B (02-13-2021), rsdmitch7 (02-04-2021), srpope80 (02-06-2021)
  #8  
Old 02-01-2021, 11:36 AM
Jon89's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 12,615
Received 4,369 Likes on 2,857 Posts
Default

We purchased my wife's 2006 XK8 in early February 2012 at 36,000 miles. I have always run Castrol 5W-30 conventional oil with the appropriate Purolator oil filter in this car. It gets an oil & filter change every 6,000 miles along with a 20-ounce bottle of Chevron Techron down the fuel filler hatch. Now at 121,600 miles and no engine or oil-related issues....
 
The following users liked this post:
rsdmitch7 (02-04-2021)
  #9  
Old 02-04-2021, 10:59 AM
rsdmitch7's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Danbury,Connecticut USA
Posts: 218
Received 57 Likes on 36 Posts
Default

I have a '99XK8 98,000mi. I use Mobile 1 10w-40 for engines over 75,000mi, with an OEM filter. I live in Southwest Ct and have no problem with starting in cold weather and very little oil consumption. The advice that GGG gave about the non-return valve filter is very important. If the engine manufacturer didn't think it necessary they wouldn't have done it. Other filters may work fine, but in this case I'll stick with the OEM filter.
Safe Driving and all the best with the new care.
Mitch
 
  #10  
Old 02-06-2021, 05:13 AM
Scottsgreenjag's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Somewhere south of Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA
Posts: 281
Received 105 Likes on 65 Posts
Default

Just out of curiosity, what part of Montana do you live in? I'm sure some of you are wondering what this has to do with oil, but bear with me. Do you plan on driving the Jag in the winter? I still have family out there and posed the "what oil" question to them and the universal answer was Mobil 0W-30 synthetic.

I lived on the family ranch in northeastern Montana for years and winter temps can be brutal. -40f was not uncommon and my winter car had both a block and tank heater as oil just plain doesn't like those temps and gasoline doesnt vaporize real well...I'd bet fuel injected engines are better at firing up than my old 4bbl.

As a side note completely off topic, back in the mid 70's, the diesel tractor I used to feed the range cattle with had a block heater, a tank heater and dual battery heaters. I'd still have to use the built in ether inject system to fire that beast up.
 
The following 2 users liked this post by Scottsgreenjag:
CorStevens (02-09-2021), dfbender (02-07-2021)
  #11  
Old 02-13-2021, 08:38 PM
moparmusclecars's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Montana
Posts: 38
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Montana Jag

I live in Great Falls (Central Montana). I have been all over the state, though. I will not be driving this car in the Winter's. I have several other rides to drive when the weather is bad. I did drive the car for a bit, as I am in an area that is like a Banana Belt in the Winter's. We just started getting snowed out last week.
 
  #12  
Old 02-13-2021, 09:52 PM
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Crossroads of America
Posts: 19,558
Received 13,106 Likes on 6,531 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by GGG
That reminds me about the oil filter. Jaguar OE filter has a non-return valve to assist in rapid oil presssure build up from a cold start. Several aftermarket filters will physically fit but make sure you get one with a non-return valve.
Great point, Graham!

Mann and Mahle are OEMs of Jaguar filters, and Mann confirms in its catalog that its filters include both a non-return/check/anti-drain-back valve to keep the filter full of oil when the engine is shut off, and a bypass valve to allow oil to flow even if the filtration media were to become obstructed.

If you compare the Mann+Hummel and Mahle/Clevite filters to a Jaguar-branded filter it will be obvious that Mann and Mahle make the Jaguar filters.

Note that the Mahle OC 602 filter that JimmyL mentioned is correct for the 4.2L cars, but Mahle specifies its OC 323 for the 4.0L cars. Mann specifies its W719/7 for both the 4.0L and 4.2L engines.

I do not know if Purolator filters that were mentioned include non-return and bypass valves.

Cheers,

Don
 

Last edited by Don B; 02-14-2021 at 10:25 PM.
The following users liked this post:
GGG (02-16-2021)
  #13  
Old 02-14-2021, 06:31 AM
Scottsgreenjag's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Somewhere south of Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA
Posts: 281
Received 105 Likes on 65 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Don B
Great point, Graham!

Mann and Mahle are OEMs of Jaguar filters, and Mann confirms in its catalog that its filters include both a non-return or check valve to keep the filter full of oil when the engine is shut off, and a bypass valve to allow oil to flow even if the filtration media were to become obstructed.

If you compare the Mann+Hummel and Mahle/Clevite filters to a Jaguar-branded filter it will be obvious that Mann and Mahle make the Jaguar filters.

Note that the Mahle OC 602 filter that JimmyL mentioned is correct for the 4.2L cars, but Mahle specifies its OC 323 for the 4.0L cars. Mann specifies its W719/7 for both the 4.0L and 4.2L engines.

I do not know if Purolator filters that were mentioned include non-return and bypass valves.

Cheers,

Don
For what it's worth, the filter that fits my XK8 4.0L and according to the Purolator site, the filter has relief valve and an anti drain valve.

OIL FILTER
PurolatorONE™
Advanced protection up to 10,000 miles
PL15317 APPLICATIONS V8 4.0L, F.I., (VIN 2), 32V SPEC DATA Threads 1-12 O.D. 2.99 Height 4.69 Weight 8.3 Flute count 14 Relief Valve P.S.I. 15 Type of Filter Spin-on Thread Pitch UNF-2B Anti-Drain Valve Yes
 
The following 2 users liked this post by Scottsgreenjag:
Don B (02-14-2021), GGG (02-16-2021)
  #14  
Old 02-14-2021, 06:50 AM
Jon89's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 12,615
Received 4,369 Likes on 2,857 Posts
Default

^^ What he said....
 
  #15  
Old 02-14-2021, 07:32 PM
stu46h's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: May 2012
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,035
Received 692 Likes on 376 Posts
Default

Do yourself a big favor on your first oil change. Remove the drain plug and throw it in the trash, where it belongs.
Install a Fumoto drain valve. I rarely promote any product or service but this one I will always recommend.
They have different types of valves that will fit, with a nipple for a hose or without, and I think some discharge at an angle.
When draining the oil, it doesn't go from nothing to max flow and splash all over the place. You have total control of flow.
I have the basic valve without a nipple and I love it.
All of my vehicles have had these for years with no problems and many instances of patting myself on the back for installing these.
Anyway, go to the website and select one.
You will not regret it.
Fumoto® USA | Quick and Easy Engine Oil Drain Valves
 
The following 3 users liked this post by stu46h:
GGG (02-16-2021), rsdmitch7 (02-15-2021), zray (02-14-2021)
  #16  
Old 02-15-2021, 06:13 AM
rsdmitch7's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Danbury,Connecticut USA
Posts: 218
Received 57 Likes on 36 Posts
Default

stu46h; Just ordered one for my car.
Thanks much
Mitch
 
The following users liked this post:
zray (02-15-2021)
  #17  
Old 02-15-2021, 01:35 PM
zray's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: on the road in NE Oklahoma
Posts: 2,832
Received 1,684 Likes on 1,000 Posts
Default

I also have a Fumoto valve installed, one with the nipple, which allows me to easily attach a hose leading to my drain pan. The nipple extension is not as low as the oil cooler and it’s framework, so no worries about it getting hit.


oil changes are much easier / cleaner now. Great product.


Fumoto F106N FN-Series Drain Valve with Long Nipple with Lever Clip
Amazon Amazon




 
The following users liked this post:
GGG (02-16-2021)
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Dealersadvocate
F-Type ( X152 )
1
08-26-2020 09:45 PM
Harry Peter Rose
X-Type ( X400 )
20
03-11-2020 06:45 PM
Azurc
XJ XJ8 / XJR ( X308 )
6
05-12-2009 07:00 PM
Jamey
X-Type ( X400 )
13
12-11-2008 11:10 AM
Cough
XK / XKR ( X150 )
2
06-25-2008 01:26 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Quick Reply: My first oil change for my 1998 XK8



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:19 AM.