No transmission service needed, sez dealer.
#21
Just googled that number for the bolts and got to a ZF parts supplier. ZF also lists an ATF fluid too:
http://www.tsgparts.net/index.php?p=...=112&parent=28
I presume this is the Esso fluid?
http://www.tsgparts.net/index.php?p=...=112&parent=28
I presume this is the Esso fluid?
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#23
Thanks for the information Stevetech, this should help a lot. By the way, replacing the guide sleeve, is there anything tricky about it? It's funny , but I typically don't even trust the dealer on work like this, I would do it myself even if it was convenient to take it to the dealer. Dealers tend to put the new or low rate guy on oil changes and they often have spotty training and experience. Since you can't pick who is going to work on your car, you take pot luck.
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flush
It allows you to replace most of the 10L of ATF at one time rather than only half at a time. The half at a time never really gets all the old oil out. Flushing is pretty normal for Ford/Chevy cars but few have reported finding shops that had the fittings necessary for the Jaguar.
#28
I was with an acquaintance of mine yesterday. He is a BMW & Mercedes master mechanic. I asked him about “lubed for life” regarding the ZF transmission, as it is used in BMWs. He asked me what I’d like the life to be, because after your tranny goes, the new one will get fresh oil. Also, he mentioned that simply draining the oil doesn’t get the majority of the oil out, and it needs to be pumped to get it out of the torque converter. So, that’ll be a task I’ll have a tranny shop do at 50K.
There is no science to not flushing the transmission. Why would it not be bad to leave in dirty/contaminated oil. Anyone that says that is just trying to avoid the extra work. .
There is no science to not flushing the transmission. Why would it not be bad to leave in dirty/contaminated oil. Anyone that says that is just trying to avoid the extra work. .
#29
I was with an acquaintance of mine yesterday. He is a BMW & Mercedes master mechanic. I asked him about “lubed for life” regarding the ZF transmission, as it is used in BMWs. He asked me what I’d like the life to be, because after your tranny goes, the new one will get fresh oil. Also, he mentioned that simply draining the oil doesn’t get the majority of the oil out, and it needs to be pumped to get it out of the torque converter. So, that’ll be a task I’ll have a tranny shop do at 50K.
There is no science to not flushing the transmission. Why would it not be bad to leave in dirty/contaminated oil. Anyone that says that is just trying to avoid the extra work. .
There is no science to not flushing the transmission. Why would it not be bad to leave in dirty/contaminated oil. Anyone that says that is just trying to avoid the extra work. .
Richard
#30
I suspect you have made the misunderstanding. The mechanic was saying that 'sealed for life' means until the 'box fails (reaches the end of its life), which it will do due to not being serviced - one is limiting the life by not servicing it, so he was absolutely correct.
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I suspect you have made the misunderstanding. The mechanic was saying that 'sealed for life' means until the 'box fails (reaches the end of its life), which it will do due to not being serviced - one is limiting the life by not servicing it, so he was absolutely correct.
My observation specifically referenced the "master mechanics" knowledge of ZF transmissions.
Richard
#32
I was with an acquaintance of mine yesterday. He is a BMW & Mercedes master mechanic. I asked him about “lubed for life” regarding the ZF transmission, as it is used in BMWs. He asked me what I’d like the life to be, because after your tranny goes, the new one will get fresh oil. Also, he mentioned that simply draining the oil doesn’t get the majority of the oil out, and it needs to be pumped to get it out of the torque converter. So, that’ll be a task I’ll have a tranny shop do at 50K.
There is no science to not flushing the transmission. Why would it not be bad to leave in dirty/contaminated oil. Anyone that says that is just trying to avoid the extra work. .
There is no science to not flushing the transmission. Why would it not be bad to leave in dirty/contaminated oil. Anyone that says that is just trying to avoid the extra work. .
The reason everybody says it will is often because the owner has waited until far too late to do a trans service. The trans fails shortly after the service, ipso facto, the service killed it. Both of my ZF trans in my BMWs had never been touched. 150K on one and 180K on another. The fluid was black water when I drained it. The first continued on to 185K before starting to leak our the front seal, the second went to 200K before the 2nd gear clutches all went metal-to-metal. Based on the internals during the rebuild, the fluid change, if it had any effect, was a positive one. The clutches were too far gone and filthy 20 year old fluid wouldn't have kept them from failing.
Having said all that, a flush at 50K shouldn't hurt anything.
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Forgot about this forum
14 years later, and forgot I was subscribed to this thread. To answer your question, yes I changed the fluid, no I did not do a flush. Transmission went out a couple of years later, replaced with a "refurbished" transmission. A refurbished transmission is a used one that's had a couple of parts replaced, they said. The shop was reputable so I went that way and it which was way cheaper and came with a 6k/6 month warranty.
I never got to see how the transmission would do long term, since the car was hit in DC traffic and totaled soon after the work was done. Cannot stand American city living, especially not that city - left and never looked back.
I got the insurance money then somebody from this forum reached out and told me he bought the car for peanuts once it was fixed. I'm surprised anybody was able to fix it and sell it without losing money, but good to hear it may still be around. I don't know the screen name of whoever it is, and it is not the car in my picture (sold it).
I never got to see how the transmission would do long term, since the car was hit in DC traffic and totaled soon after the work was done. Cannot stand American city living, especially not that city - left and never looked back.
I got the insurance money then somebody from this forum reached out and told me he bought the car for peanuts once it was fixed. I'm surprised anybody was able to fix it and sell it without losing money, but good to hear it may still be around. I don't know the screen name of whoever it is, and it is not the car in my picture (sold it).
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