Rear 1/4 Window Regulator
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Rear 1/4 Window Regulator
After pulling apart the rear of my car, I gained access to the motor, track, & window via a cutout in the panel. How it works is ~ there's a cable that runs around a top & bottom wheel - with the window attached between them on one side, the motor on the other. Probably Hall Sensors tell the 'top' when is OK to raise/lower.
My motor works fine but...the cable keeps hoping off the bottom wheel of the assembly. I've pulled my regulator (motor) out and re-strung it while in the car. Fun that it was, It worked for awhile, but keeps hoping off. Any reason for this ? Obviously, I can't keep re-stringing this !
Also, how do I get the 'track' out of the car (obviously won't come out that hole and there's lots of bolts in there) ?
PS: I tried to send JagTechOhio a PM, but was rejected (full).
Thanks in advance,
Robert
My motor works fine but...the cable keeps hoping off the bottom wheel of the assembly. I've pulled my regulator (motor) out and re-strung it while in the car. Fun that it was, It worked for awhile, but keeps hoping off. Any reason for this ? Obviously, I can't keep re-stringing this !
Also, how do I get the 'track' out of the car (obviously won't come out that hole and there's lots of bolts in there) ?
PS: I tried to send JagTechOhio a PM, but was rejected (full).
Thanks in advance,
Robert
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Hey,
Sure, it can't hurt; Thanks.
Yeah, I haven't seen too many posts about tearing into their car here (except for the top's hydraulic lines). Its just that I'm pretty sure I can repair this regulator by reinforcing the track...and save A LOT of money. It shouldn't be that difficult, but need to know how ~ once I get the unit re-assembled ~ how to get it back.
I can tear it apart and reassemble it within the panel, but its SUCH a pain to re-wire the cabling.
Like I said, I'm sure somewhere here has done it !
Sure, it can't hurt; Thanks.
Yeah, I haven't seen too many posts about tearing into their car here (except for the top's hydraulic lines). Its just that I'm pretty sure I can repair this regulator by reinforcing the track...and save A LOT of money. It shouldn't be that difficult, but need to know how ~ once I get the unit re-assembled ~ how to get it back.
I can tear it apart and reassemble it within the panel, but its SUCH a pain to re-wire the cabling.
Like I said, I'm sure somewhere here has done it !
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Not sure if this will help or not but here's a TSB I found:
501-49
DATE
11/01 XK
MODEL
1999-2000
MY XK Conv. VIN
041998-A07948 Rear Quarter Window Regulator Failure - Excessive Bracket Flex - Repair Procedure
Issue:
Some 1999-2000 MY XK convertibles, within the above VIN ranges, may experience customer complaints of failure of the regulator for the rear quarter window. It has been identified that the rear quarter window regulator assembly base plate may be made from a softer than normal metal. Although this material is within specification, it can lead to excessive flexing of the base plate, subsequently leading to the drive cable becoming detached. To eliminate this concern, a reinforcing bracket has been added to the bottom of the assembly to improve stability.
If a regulator fails, replace the assembly with the latest level regulator. The opposite side must also be checked for the latest level component and replaced if necessary.
Action:
In case of a customer complaint of regulator failure on a 1999-2000 MY XK convertable, within the above VIN range, follow the workshop procedure outlined below:
WORKSHOP PROCEDURE
1. Place suitable covers over the floor and seats. 2. Remove the failed rear quarter window regulator assembly (see Workshop Manual, JTIS CD ROM, section 501-11, SRO 86.25.11).
Note: If only one side rear quarter window regulator has failed, inspect the opposite regulator to see if it is equipped with a reinforcing bracket (Arrowed area in Illustration 1.) If not replace both regulators. 3. Install new rear quarter window regulator(s) (see Workshop Manual, JTIS CD ROM, section: 501-11, SRO 86.25.11). 4. Remove floor and seat covers.
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501-49
DATE
11/01 XK
MODEL
1999-2000
MY XK Conv. VIN
041998-A07948 Rear Quarter Window Regulator Failure - Excessive Bracket Flex - Repair Procedure
Issue:
Some 1999-2000 MY XK convertibles, within the above VIN ranges, may experience customer complaints of failure of the regulator for the rear quarter window. It has been identified that the rear quarter window regulator assembly base plate may be made from a softer than normal metal. Although this material is within specification, it can lead to excessive flexing of the base plate, subsequently leading to the drive cable becoming detached. To eliminate this concern, a reinforcing bracket has been added to the bottom of the assembly to improve stability.
If a regulator fails, replace the assembly with the latest level regulator. The opposite side must also be checked for the latest level component and replaced if necessary.
Action:
In case of a customer complaint of regulator failure on a 1999-2000 MY XK convertable, within the above VIN range, follow the workshop procedure outlined below:
WORKSHOP PROCEDURE
1. Place suitable covers over the floor and seats. 2. Remove the failed rear quarter window regulator assembly (see Workshop Manual, JTIS CD ROM, section 501-11, SRO 86.25.11).
Note: If only one side rear quarter window regulator has failed, inspect the opposite regulator to see if it is equipped with a reinforcing bracket (Arrowed area in Illustration 1.) If not replace both regulators. 3. Install new rear quarter window regulator(s) (see Workshop Manual, JTIS CD ROM, section: 501-11, SRO 86.25.11). 4. Remove floor and seat covers.
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Last edited by GreenJewel; 10-28-2009 at 05:45 AM.
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TSB 501-49 Rear quarter window regulator
Mark,
Please post your rear quarter window regulator TSB above in a new thread and we will add it to the TSB sticky.
Anyone having copies of TSBs not already in the sticky please post and get them linked.
Please post your rear quarter window regulator TSB above in a new thread and we will add it to the TSB sticky.
Anyone having copies of TSBs not already in the sticky please post and get them linked.
Last edited by test point; 10-28-2009 at 07:47 AM.
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I've never seen that before.
Last edited by GreenJewel; 10-29-2009 at 06:16 AM.
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green, do you have screen capture ability? If not, let me send you this small program that can do that for you. No install, just a copy/paste into a directory, then run the exe program get it going. its a photo editor with a capture command, very easy to use.
then you can at least attach the correct images with your TSB notes. PM me
then you can at least attach the correct images with your TSB notes. PM me
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Is ok. Just don't forget about me ! Everything so far just says to remove the 3 nuts (which I know) and remove unit ? Uh, yea it ain't coming out the top or bottom in one piece.
Gus suggested the trunk, which is a clever thought, but didn't see that either.
I just know this unit isn't installed in parts. There's no way factory guys string that cable on the line !
Gus suggested the trunk, which is a clever thought, but didn't see that either.
I just know this unit isn't installed in parts. There's no way factory guys string that cable on the line !
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It is removed straight up . . . after about a twenty step process. JTIS lays it out with pictures but I have a screen capture/crop/attach handicap.
HarleyD was a master at that. We miss you Dave.
Step 1 is remove top. Sorta like the old Hayes manual on the Volkswagen Beetle; Step 1. Remove engine, see engine section.
Tom P.
HarleyD was a master at that. We miss you Dave.
Step 1 is remove top. Sorta like the old Hayes manual on the Volkswagen Beetle; Step 1. Remove engine, see engine section.
Tom P.
Last edited by test point; 10-30-2009 at 05:06 PM.
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Remove Top ? WTF ~ to change out a window regulator ?
Mmmph, thanks for the info anyway...
Mmmph, thanks for the info anyway...
It is removed straight up . . . after about a twenty step process. JTIS lays it out with pictures but I have a screen capture/crop/attach handicap.
HarleyD was a master at that. We miss you Dave.
Step 1 is remove top. Sorta like the old Hayes manual on the Volkswagen Beetle; Step 1. Remove engine, see engine section.
Tom P.
HarleyD was a master at that. We miss you Dave.
Step 1 is remove top. Sorta like the old Hayes manual on the Volkswagen Beetle; Step 1. Remove engine, see engine section.
Tom P.
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The note on the R&R estimator deducts 1.0 hr from the 3.8 hrs for not having to remove the top. So all you have to do is spend 30 minutes removing the top, plus 30 minutes to put it back on. No problem.
I still believe that someone has posted on removing the assembly without the top work. Just can't find it.
I still believe that someone has posted on removing the assembly without the top work. Just can't find it.
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