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Old 08-08-2012, 04:07 PM
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They are talking about the lower shock "bearing". It has to be pressed out and then the new one pressed in according to my mechanic. It is not a bushing.

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They do not know what they are taking about, it is a bush, not a bearing, see my thread on how to change. Look at the pictures.

It can be done in situ with a home made tool or pressed out if you take the shock out.
 
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Old 08-08-2012, 10:36 PM
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I will try to get a diagram from my garage tomorrow, that shows what and were this "bearing" is located on the rear lower shock.

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I built a press out of 1 1/2" ridge conduit coupler (resever) and fence top rail coupler (pusher). I'm using a threaded rod coupler as the compression nut, it's 1 1/2" long so you get lots of threads. I'm using my 1/2" impact wrench to drive things home, but as you can see things are not moving. Right now it's starting to mushroom the pusher. I will start with propane heat and hope not to have to move to acetylene. I don't have a problem with working room because the car has lowering springs on it. This gives me enough room to work on the bushing w/o a spring compressor.

Any addition help information would be appreciated!
 
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Are you definitely on the bush and not the carrier?
I'd think with that setuo it should come out OK.
 
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:54 AM
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Just to add information, I am enclosing the site for all the Jaguar special tools referenced in the factory manual.
The one to remove these bushes is 204-115 if my info is correct.

https://jaguar.spx.com/Home
 
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Old 02-07-2013, 04:59 PM
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I know my pusher is small OD than the outer sleeve of the bushing by a few thousands. Anyone try pushing on the inner sleeve of the bushing?
 
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:17 PM
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Couple of things I would try. First, use a couple of sockets from your least favorite set with a nut,bolt, and washers. They can withstand the force. Then if you get the bush started and the socket within the bore of the shock, you can continue to screw the bolt or hit it with a BFH and it should come. Another thought is to saw through the metal bush so it collapses easier, and press or pound it out.
 
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by guzzi svt
I know my pusher is small OD than the outer sleeve of the bushing by a few thousands. Anyone try pushing on the inner sleeve of the bushing?
You will just push the centre out leaving the outer sleeve in the shock
 
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Originally Posted by XKRacer
You will just push the centre out leaving the outer sleeve in the shock
Yes, and DO NOT pull the new one in by the centre bush, you will wreck it.
 
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:16 AM
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I had one of these tools made and used it myself..i also have lent it out a few time to members in the uk
 
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:36 AM
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I recently posted a request for a tool / procedure to replace my shock bushings on my S-Type Shock Bushing Tool - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum and received several ideas and procedures. I had hopes in doing this today but other things are pulling me away from this project. I have access to a machine shop who can make the tools once I figure out what it is I need. I have been following this thread and see that I am on the right track. I hope to post in the next day or two with my results. Thanks for your input!
 
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Old 02-08-2013, 03:28 PM
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My next trick is to use a socket if I can find the right size. the mild steel pusher is just deforming. As far as pushing out the center, has anyone done this? That would make cutting through the outer sleeve a lot easier if I go that route.
 
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I haven't tried it, but it makes sense. You're not trying to save it, so if it comes out in pieces it's okay.
 
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Originally Posted by XKRacer
You will just push the centre out leaving the outer sleeve in the shock
What he sez!
 
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:01 AM
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I have pressed out the center and then cut a notch in the outer sleeve to change all of the bushings in my car. It is far easier and faster than pressing out the old bushing intact. Cut the notch facing towards the shock tube in case you cut a hair too deep. As Steve mentioned make sure you install the new one by pressing on the outer sleeve only
 
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Old 02-09-2013, 09:49 AM
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its a bush..bearing turn
 
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Not sure why you removed it in two parts. I was looking around and found an old socket 1 1/8 in that will work perfectly to push the bushing out and got a 1 ½ in pipe as a receiver of the bushing with a carriage bolt and will try this first. If that fails I will go to the machine shop to make what I need.
 
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:58 AM
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I got one side out last night after pushing out the center and then cutting it on two side (not all the way through because I was careful not to cut the shock eyelet), I then used the 1 1/8" socket to push the outer portion out. It went fighting all the way. I didn't get to install the new one because I had deformed the pushing nut (long rod coupling nut) while hammering it earlier in the process. I had to go buy a new one and then by then it was too late, still need to eat dinner.

Gus, How did your extraction do?
 
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I am taking a more cautious approach I read your post and elected to have an extraction tool made that will fit correctly in the chase and not damage the new one going in. I have a machine fabricating shop in the next town that is making it for me. The other delay is that after a full examination of my s-type I ordered several items to replace and plan to do it all at one time when they come in. If need be I will remove the shock and press them out with a 20ton press.

I am a bit disappointed that you had to remove it in 2 pieces and cutting it to get it out. I will keep you posted.
 
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:31 PM
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I'm going to try removing the other side with the 1 1/8" socket first before pushing out the center, but must admit 20 tons sound nice.
I also got out my wheel cylinder hone, that I hadn't used in years, to clean up the bore of the shock eyelet. I hoping it doesn't require the same amount of force to install the new one as it did to remove the old one. I'm going to start with the old sleeve as the pusher first, if that doesn't work I'll have to remove the grease boot and retainer springs clips to use the socket as a pusher, maybe a trip to the freeze for the bushing would help.

I have a machine shop too, it's a drill, vise, hack saw and hammer.
 

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