Rust opinions on possible purchase
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Rust opinions on possible purchase
Hello all, been lurking for a while and I really want a 03-06 xkr, preferably convertible. I found one in the Midwest that looks pretty good, 03 with recaro seats, bbs wheels and 65k on the clock. Definitely has some markings of a 20 year old car but looks to be pretty decent. I had them lift the car and send pics and found more rust than I like living in the south but seems like these cars are very prone to rust in general. Ideally I wanna keep this car for a long time probably wouldn't put more than 3k miles on it a year. . My question is this an expensive fix? Do I even need to do anything? Thanks for your advice. odly one sales man said I'm better off walking away and another 2 saying it's a really good car and this was all over the phone. I'm having a friend for drive the car in person and report back but he's only got a basic knowledge of cars.
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The usual suspects of the plates on the underside of the footwells are showng rust. Although it looks early stages, there may well already be holes in the floor pan:- a fairly straightforward repair.
The hole by the rear subframe front mount is more of a concern since that is at the bottom of the drop leg which tends to rot out. Again, it doesn't appear to be extensive, but investigate further back where the rear subframe front mounts attach to the bottom of that box section. The whole area around the bottom of the rear sill/rocker can be problematic.
Work on the basis that there will always be more rot than you can see, and ideally, have someone who knows these cars and their weak spots give it a thorough inspection.
It generally doesn't look bad, so may be worth the gamble - depends on the price.
The hole by the rear subframe front mount is more of a concern since that is at the bottom of the drop leg which tends to rot out. Again, it doesn't appear to be extensive, but investigate further back where the rear subframe front mounts attach to the bottom of that box section. The whole area around the bottom of the rear sill/rocker can be problematic.
Work on the basis that there will always be more rot than you can see, and ideally, have someone who knows these cars and their weak spots give it a thorough inspection.
It generally doesn't look bad, so may be worth the gamble - depends on the price.
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The usual suspects of the plates on the underside of the footwells are showng rust. Although it looks early stages, there may well already be holes in the floor pan:- a fairly straightforward repair.
The hole by the rear subframe front mount is more of a concern since that is at the bottom of the drop leg which tends to rot out. Again, it doesn't appear to be extensive, but investigate further back where the rear subframe front mounts attach to the bottom of that box section. The whole area around the bottom of the rear sill/rocker can be problematic.
Work on the basis that there will always be more rot than you can see, and ideally, have someone who knows these cars and their weak spots give it a thorough inspection.
It generally doesn't look bad, so may be worth the gamble - depends on the price.
The hole by the rear subframe front mount is more of a concern since that is at the bottom of the drop leg which tends to rot out. Again, it doesn't appear to be extensive, but investigate further back where the rear subframe front mounts attach to the bottom of that box section. The whole area around the bottom of the rear sill/rocker can be problematic.
Work on the basis that there will always be more rot than you can see, and ideally, have someone who knows these cars and their weak spots give it a thorough inspection.
It generally doesn't look bad, so may be worth the gamble - depends on the price.
Here the link, I'm in no rush to buy but seems like a well sorted car outside the undercarriage.
https://www.landroverschaumburg.com/...a42b733a35436/
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Does not look bad at all. The sills look good ,the main problem and more difficult to repair. Footwells no problem and a small hole by the grommet in the rear ...Wish mine was that good.
Check for water under the carpets (footwells) and water under the back seat ( two bolts) .
Quick spray with a nice black wax and a small plate to weld on and its all good
Check for water under the carpets (footwells) and water under the back seat ( two bolts) .
Quick spray with a nice black wax and a small plate to weld on and its all good
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Thank you both, this is why I love these forums! It would be my first jag, etype for me is one of the most beautiful cars I have ever seen and these remind me so much of them. If the car were green I would have already gotten it.
Or I wait for one that's only lived in the south which there are but they want like 3k more which isn't bad but less options and I've had too many black on black cars
http://atcm.co/S2PVDP/26C881CF
Based on your comment maybe $1.5k in work I'm guessing but who knows with today's cost.
Or I wait for one that's only lived in the south which there are but they want like 3k more which isn't bad but less options and I've had too many black on black cars
http://atcm.co/S2PVDP/26C881CF
Based on your comment maybe $1.5k in work I'm guessing but who knows with today's cost.
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Tough Call
First off it seem that 20K is high for the car. It seems you could find a car from a dry climate in mint condition for less than that. As far as the rust goes there are products such as Por 15 that can stop the rust, assuming you can get at it. If there is metal work requied I am sure the cost will easily exceed 1.5K unless you can do it yourself. Accidents and rust are two issues I always try to avoid. I like your comment on color, BRG on a Jag is the best solution. Good Luck.
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First off it seem that 20K is high for the car. It seems you could find a car from a dry climate in mint condition for less than that. As far as the rust goes there are products such as Por 15 that can stop the rust, assuming you can get at it. If there is metal work requied I am sure the cost will easily exceed 1.5K unless you can do it yourself. Accidents and rust are two issues I always try to avoid. I like your comment on color, BRG on a Jag is the best solution. Good Luck.
If anyone has a someone that's selling one they can recommend I'm all ears. Ideally I would would like to stay around 18k, I can do some mid to easy level engine and suspension work myself but body work is out of my realm.
Appreciate the continued feedback.
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Here is one in MIami
Thanks David, I have been looking for a few months and haven't seemed to have found anything with no accidents and upkeep for less than 20k, maybe I will throw a low offer after the holiday weekend and see what they say.
If anyone has a someone that's selling one they can recommend I'm all ears. Ideally I would would like to stay around 18k, I can do some mid to easy level engine and suspension work myself but body work is out of my realm.
Appreciate the continued feedback.
If anyone has a someone that's selling one they can recommend I'm all ears. Ideally I would would like to stay around 18k, I can do some mid to easy level engine and suspension work myself but body work is out of my realm.
Appreciate the continued feedback.
This is a 2003 4.2 coupe. I know you are looking for a convertible but the coupes are actually more rare and valuable. Asking 16.5 k.
Most likely rust free if its spent time in MIami.. I also am looking for a used car (wife totaled my daily driver). There seems to be a real used car bubble going on right now. Good Luck
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Does not look bad at all. The sills look good ,the main problem and more difficult to repair. Footwells no problem and a small hole by the grommet in the rear ...Wish mine was that good.
Check for water under the carpets (footwells) and water under the back seat ( two bolts) .
Quick spray with a nice black wax and a small plate to weld on and its all good
Check for water under the carpets (footwells) and water under the back seat ( two bolts) .
Quick spray with a nice black wax and a small plate to weld on and its all good
#10
Hello all, been lurking for a while and I really want a 03-06 xkr, preferably convertible. I found one in the Midwest that looks pretty good, 03 with recaro seats, bbs wheels and 65k on the clock. Definitely has some markings of a 20 year old car but looks to be pretty decent. I had them lift the car and send pics and found more rust than I like living in the south but seems like these cars are very prone to rust in general. Ideally I wanna keep this car for a long time probably wouldn't put more than 3k miles on it a year. . My question is this an expensive fix? Do I even need to do anything? Thanks for your advice. odly one sales man said I'm better off walking away and another 2 saying it's a really good car and this was all over the phone. I'm having a friend for drive the car in person and report back but he's only got a basic knowledge of cars.
Appreas to have a hole already
Appreas to have a hole already
Just my humble experience from the UK 🇬🇧
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Thanks for your observations
Here the link, I'm in no rush to buy but seems like a well sorted car outside the undercarriage.
https://www.landroverschaumburg.com/...a42b733a35436/
Here the link, I'm in no rush to buy but seems like a well sorted car outside the undercarriage.
https://www.landroverschaumburg.com/...a42b733a35436/
Best of luck mate 😉
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Thanks for your observations
Here the link, I'm in no rush to buy but seems like a well sorted car outside the undercarriage.
https://www.landroverschaumburg.com/...a42b733a35436/
Here the link, I'm in no rush to buy but seems like a well sorted car outside the undercarriage.
https://www.landroverschaumburg.com/...a42b733a35436/
#13
That is clean for a Chicago car, mine was a CA car and is not much cleaner after a few years here (that is with it in storage all winter and very little wet driving). A little under carriage bath and some POR15 over the rust and it will last another 20 years. Just talk them down to 15k and its a nice car!
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https://miami.craigslist.org/brw/ctd...529021685.html
This is a 2003 4.2 coupe. I know you are looking for a convertible but the coupes are actually more rare and valuable. Asking 16.5 k.
Most likely rust free if its spent time in MIami.. I also am looking for a used car (wife totaled my daily driver). There seems to be a real used car bubble going on right now. Good Luck
This is a 2003 4.2 coupe. I know you are looking for a convertible but the coupes are actually more rare and valuable. Asking 16.5 k.
Most likely rust free if its spent time in MIami.. I also am looking for a used car (wife totaled my daily driver). There seems to be a real used car bubble going on right now. Good Luck
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$1500 for a little hole in the floor !! We have guys who do mobile welding here in the UK on your drive who could fix that in 15 min.
You need to take off the sill trim plates (easy) and lift the carpet so they can weld the front floor pans usually from underneath. This is usually in flat plate,if you are looking for a replica of the original floor pan with all the swages then you will pay $$$$
Personally, I would epoxy a plate over that hole in the rear and go around the edge with a mastic gun in a jerky fashion to simulate a TIG weld. Underseal over and spray the underside with black wax
PS Never buy a car from me.
You need to take off the sill trim plates (easy) and lift the carpet so they can weld the front floor pans usually from underneath. This is usually in flat plate,if you are looking for a replica of the original floor pan with all the swages then you will pay $$$$
Personally, I would epoxy a plate over that hole in the rear and go around the edge with a mastic gun in a jerky fashion to simulate a TIG weld. Underseal over and spray the underside with black wax
PS Never buy a car from me.
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$1500 for a little hole in the floor !! We have guys who do mobile welding here in the UK on your drive who could fix that in 15 min.
You need to take off the sill trim plates (easy) and lift the carpet so they can weld the front floor pans usually from underneath. This is usually in flat plate,if you are looking for a replica of the original floor pan with all the swages then you will pay $$$$
Personally, I would epoxy a plate over that hole in the rear and go around the edge with a mastic gun in a jerky fashion to simulate a TIG weld. Underseal over and spray the underside with black wax
PS Never buy a car from me.
You need to take off the sill trim plates (easy) and lift the carpet so they can weld the front floor pans usually from underneath. This is usually in flat plate,if you are looking for a replica of the original floor pan with all the swages then you will pay $$$$
Personally, I would epoxy a plate over that hole in the rear and go around the edge with a mastic gun in a jerky fashion to simulate a TIG weld. Underseal over and spray the underside with black wax
PS Never buy a car from me.
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