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Old 08-12-2023, 03:47 AM
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Hi,
I'm looking for a good scanner for a 1997 model.

Considering the icarsoft CR V2.0 or Pro, or similar - which I believe are the later versions of previously recommended icarsoft models.
But do they work for ALL modules on these earlier cars?
Any others ***Proven**** to access ALL modules on 1997 ish cars?


I already have 4 scanners including an Autel MD 801 'MaxiDiag' which is supposed to do everything but doesn't do much.
I also have a vxnano J2534 but haven't had much luck with the IDS/SDD - are there any recommendations/downloads for going this route?

So I'm not asking about basic engine/transmission stuff which my other scanners will read.

But I really want to know about ABS, Aircon, Instrument pack, Body Control Module, Security module, Door and seat modules etc.
Modules labelled IPK, BPM, SLH, DDM, PSM, etc - modules which I can't read and don't know what will.


Thanks in advance for any help.... John

(I posted a version of this in the old general tech thread on scanners, but it's probably better here)
 

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I purchased one scanner (Topdon Artilink 600) it does not even power on. I decided to go for the Jaguar IDS system. Not as "handy" as a scanner but has all the functions and will work.
You will need the correct cable. I purchased a kit from British Diagnostics, worth it as far as I am concerned.
 
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Thanks -
Which version of IDS do you use?
Yours is 2001 right?
 
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Yes. 2001. Not sure of the version would need to boot up the VM but it’s the version that comes with the V1.30 setup.
 
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I use the Icarsoft V2.0 for my 1997 XK8. Seems to work fine for what I need.
 
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I use the Icarsoft V2.0 for my 1997 XK8. Seems to work fine for what I need.
Thanks Ozbot that's good news.

Which modules you can see on it apart from Engine & Transmission?
e.g. ABS, Aircon, Instrument pack, Body Control Module, Security module, Door and seat modules?
Modules labelled IPK, BPM, SLH, DDM, PSM, etc

Or can you remember about how many modules in total you can access?

John.
 

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Hi John,

Glad to help. I get ECM, TCM, ABS, IP, BPM, DDM (drivers door), DSM (drivers seat), PDM (passenger door) , PSM (passenger seat), RCM (restraint control), CCM (climate control), ADS (adaptive damping system), KTM (key transponder) and SLM (security locking). It reads P, B and U error codes. You have to order the Jaguar/ Landrover specific reader.
 
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Ozbot.... Excellent news mate.
I really value that - I didn't want to buy on another manufacturer's false promises.

I think I'm going to go for the CR PRO model which does 'all' makes - because I have cars by 4 different marques in the family.
I got the Aussie seller to check with icarsoft; and they said that the pro version keeps all the features of the individual specific model versions.
I was concerned that it may not work with my early model year and the seller was exaggerating - as happened with the Autel one I got.

Thanks a lot for your help....
 
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I have a. Foxwell NT310 for my 98 XK8 which has the JLR software installed and it happily reads all modules except those on the serial data link such as the Air con module and the Key transponder. However, if you use an OBD breakout box and short out pins for the SDL, they are read just fine. Apparently this is fixed on later cars. Something to be aware of on earlier models.
 
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Thanks,
When I google Foxwell NT310 it only shows the NT301...
Is that what you mean - or is it an older model?

Edit - I just found it - it seems to no longer be on sale,
but I'll see what the updated version is ......
 

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Originally Posted by JohnNZ
Thanks,
When I google NT310 it only shows NT301...
Is that what you mean - or is it an older model?
Sorry, finger trouble.NT301it is.
 
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Ok, I bought this scanner hoping it would do what I need, unfortunately it's 'patchy' in what it will do on MY car -

It will read and clear -
Eng Control
Trans Control
Instrument cluster
ABS module

It will read but NOT clear -
Driver' door
Passenger door and seat
Body control module.

It will NOT read or clear -
Airbags
Driver's seat
Security locking module.

Not sure weather to try to get a refund or not ($420)....
 

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Originally Posted by JohnNZ
Ok, I bought this scanner hoping it would do what I need, unfortunately it's 'patchy' in what it will do on MY car -

It will read and clear -
Eng Control
Trans Control
Instrument cluster
ABS module

It will read but NOT clear -
Driver' door
Passenger door and seat
Body control module.

It will NOT read or clear -
Driver's seat
Security locking module.

Not sure weather to try to get a refund or not ($420)....
That's frustrating! My Foxwell has specific JLR software and is able to read all modules and clear all codes that I've read. It's somewhat cheaper too. Does yours have the specific software or just plain OBD2?
 
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It's their 'luxury' spec that's supposed to do all cars all modules -
(We have cars of 4 makes in the family)
but obviously doesn't..

Which modules have you cleared?
 

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Originally Posted by JohnNZ
It's their 'luxury' spec that's supposed to do all cars all modules -
(We have cars of 4 makes in the family)
but obviously doesn't..

Which model is your foxwell?
Which modules have you read & cleared?
My scanner is a 310 Elite which looks like it's been superceded. I notice that most Foxwell scanners are "all cars" like your existing scanner. There is a 510 Elite on Amazon that is programmed by Foxwell specifically for Landrover/Jaguar, which appears to be identical to mine. Do a search on scanners for Jaguar. My car is a 1997 (MY98) build and with an OBD breakout box, I do believe that I can read all the modules on board. I mentioned in a previous post that the breakout box is needed to read the modules on the serial data link (Key transponder, AC Controller and active suspension module) on older cars but should read them without the box on later models.
 
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Thanks RedJags.

Mine is 1996 (1997 MY), I don't have a transponder (ex Japan car) or adaptive suspension.
But I'd like to see the modules I do have....
 
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Originally Posted by JohnNZ
Hi,
I'm looking for a good scanner for a 1997 model.

Considering the icarsoft CR V2.0 or Pro, or similar - which I believe are the later versions of previously recommended icarsoft models.
But do they work for ALL modules on these earlier cars?
Any others ***Proven**** to access ALL modules on 1997 ish cars?


I already have 4 scanners including an Autel MD 801 'MaxiDiag' which is supposed to do everything but doesn't do much.
I also have a vxnano J2534 but haven't had much luck with the IDS/SDD - are there any recommendations/downloads for going this route?

So I'm not asking about basic engine/transmission stuff which my other scanners will read.

But I really want to know about ABS, Aircon, Instrument pack, Body Control Module, Security module, Door and seat modules etc.
Modules labelled IPK, BPM, SLH, DDM, PSM, etc - modules which I can't read and don't know what will.


Thanks in advance for any help.... John

(I posted a version of this in the old general tech thread on scanners, but it's probably better here)
I realize this is an older thread, but I'm curious if you ever found a scanner that worked. I have an iCarsoft LR V3.0 and it works ok, but it does not read the modules I need, like the airbag. I have a 98 XK and its got some quirks. Having a scanner to read those extra modules would be a huge help.
 
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Hi,
So I bought the CR Pro, which does lots of makes of cars. I did that because we have cars by 3 other makes in the family as well.
The software for each marque is identical between the Pro (many marques) and single marque models like the LR.
In my early (serial no. just under 3000) car I got the following results -

It will read and clear-
Engine Control
Trans Control
Instrument cluster
ABS module

It will read but NOT clear
Driver's door
Passenger door Passenger seat
Body control module.

It will NOT read OR clear
Airbags/SRS – this is on OBD Pin 3 on these early cars.
Driver's seat
Security locking module. Aircon - Serial data - pins 7 & 15

Regards, John

 

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Hi RedJags,
Sorry to dig up an old thread, but a question from another member has got me thinking about how to use my scanner better, to see more modules.

I have some connectors with loose leads which I can use as a break out box.
But how do I actually do this to access these modules?
i.e which pins on the car do I connect to which on the scanner?
And by short out - do you mean connect these 2 together? on the car or at the scanner? or to ground in either case?

I'd like to access and be able to erase -
Aircon - Serial data - pins 7 & 15
Security locking module, and
Body control module - SCP on pins 2 & 10.
Driver's seat

And be able to erase -

Driver's door
Passenger door & SeatThank you for any help.

Regards, John


 
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Originally Posted by JohnNZ
Hi RedJags,
Sorry to dig up an old thread, but a question from another member has got me thinking about how to use my scanner better, to see more modules.

I have some connectors with loose leads which I can use as a break out box.
But how do I actually do this to access these modules?
i.e which pins on the car do I connect to which on the scanner?
And by short out - do you mean connect these 2 together? on the car or at the scanner? or to ground in either case?

I'd like to access and be able to erase -
Aircon - Serial data - pins 7 & 15
Security locking module, and
Body control module - SCP on pins 2 & 10.
Driver's seat

And be able to erase -

Driver's door
Passenger door & SeatThank you for any help.

Regards, John
I bought a cheap OBD2 breakout box from Ebay. By having all pins represented by sockets it's really easy to short out the Serial pins and read the Aircon and other modules on that circuit. It also has indicators on all pins to show when signals are being sent on each bus. I use this in conjunction with a Foxwell scanner specifically programmed for Jaguars and Landrovers.
This set up should give you almost everything you need on our early cars.
 


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