Should I repaint the XK8 this color?
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Should I repaint the XK8 this color?
I finally got the XK8 back with a rebuilt engine and it's ready for cosmetic work! I wanted to see what you guys thought if I painted the 1998 XK8 Ultimate Black Metallic like the new models. Would the Ultimate Black match with the Tan interior and Tan top that I have? I've never seen that combination before so share some of your thoughts. I also want to put black 18" rims and drilled/slotted rotors.
#2
I don't like black rims. I think the black would go OK with the tan interior, but not with the tan top.
If you're going to do a drastic color change like that, are you also going to paint all of the hidden areas that are only seen when the doors, trunk, and hood are open? If not, it might look like a cheap repaint.
If you're going to do a drastic color change like that, are you also going to paint all of the hidden areas that are only seen when the doors, trunk, and hood are open? If not, it might look like a cheap repaint.
#3
Repaint
I think you'll find a repaint to be cost prohibitive if done right. As Rev Sam states, to do all the "nooks and crannies" involves a lot of time and trouble of removing essentially every molding, chrome piece, light socket, etc., etc. Additionally, any indication of a repaint, and one's reaction would be WHY - wrecked, totalled? Also, the paint code on the car, obviously, will no longer match the car's color. If black is what you're after, it probably would be less expensive to sell and buy, or trade.
#4
Thank you for your comments. Yes, I would have the whole car repainted including inside the door panels, trunk lid, etc... I am concerned mostly with how the black paint and the tan top would look. I heard that you can dye the material black also, but I think that will look like crap and I don't want to risk it. As far as selling it, I thought about it but I actually want to keep this car and make it my project car. This car is actually for my younger brother who just came back from deployment. I'm trying to make the car to his specifications, but I wanted all your guys' feedback. I want to explain to him what we can do and what other options we have.
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Actually, black/tan is a nice combination, though you don't see it with the tan top as much as you used to. I see, however, that you have that really pretty met. red on yours now. I wouldn't change that if it were me, but I happen to like that red. I have had a number of cars done with complete color changes over the years, and while it used to be reasonable, it has become stupidly expensive. The point about "why" is very valid, too. Remember that black shows every flaw and polishing mark, as well as dirt.
But you know what....it's your car, and if you enjoy it enough to keep it for the long haul, do whatever makes you feel best about it.
But you know what....it's your car, and if you enjoy it enough to keep it for the long haul, do whatever makes you feel best about it.
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I am doing a color change at the moment from carnivale red to stratus grey which is a new model color....... Everything is being done at a princely sum of $9000 The interior of this car is Oatmeal, should look OK against the black/grey
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This price was for a bare metal respray, I spent a week just removing paint, it is a very long process and very expensive, why not go for a cheaper option and get the car wrapped, at least you could take it off if you wished
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This price was for a bare metal respray, I spent a week just removing paint, it is a very long process and very expensive, why not go for a cheaper option and get the car wrapped, at least you could take it off if you wished
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#9
Much as I admire XKRacer's work, I can't understand these customers who plough £1000s into a car that's not actually worth much more. A colour change is massively expensive and you will never get your money back. If it were me, I would either respray the same colour, vinyl wrap the bodywork, or sell the car and buy another one in the colour I wanted.
I agree with Rev on the black wheels - ugh! Black wheels have been fashionable for a couple of years, but will look really aftermarket on a car that went out of production 5 years ago.
I agree with Rev on the black wheels - ugh! Black wheels have been fashionable for a couple of years, but will look really aftermarket on a car that went out of production 5 years ago.
#10
You are looking at it the wrong way.
Nobody modifies a car and expect to get there money back, it is not an investment, more of a statement.
#11
Having had black wheels on my white vette and putting them on my friends vette(color black rose), they looked GREAT. Purists hate change, me I am with XKRacer, I want to make a statement. Black and tan look great, in fact it is one of my favorite drinks!!
I do not like wraps, because they fade and wear out quickly, repaint and do it right and when the women stare at you in your car, you will know it is worth the effort, unless you are married, then you smile on the inside and tell your wife how wonderful she is or anything else you can think of to get that 'What have you been up too' look off her face.
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Regardless of what painters say, black or BRG are very tricky colours if you are seeking absolute perfection. I had my BRG XJS done at the best shop in town; stripped to bare metal, all panels removed from the frame, wet sanded in between the last few coats, as well as the clear when it was all done....the car does not look as good as I was expecting it to look. It looks very nice. But not what I thought I would get for what I paid. I have already accepted the fact that I will have to live with the work or: a) spend 35k on another repaint or b) send it to the Rolls Royce factory for a repaint...neither of which is going to happen. (I would if I could) If you are prepared for something that does not look 100% assembly line, then go for it. Painters and restoration shops will tell you that they can match a luxury assembly line job. Even at concours, I have yet to see a repainted black or BRG car that has the butter-like absolute fluid finish of an original job.
OTOH, owners of almost any other color are able to get away with cheaper 2K-5K jobs and have a perfect job done, indistiguishable from the original.
OTOH, owners of almost any other color are able to get away with cheaper 2K-5K jobs and have a perfect job done, indistiguishable from the original.
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I don't know Spike, after the passenger side of my car was vandalized I had a local shop fix the damage and the side he fixed actually looks better than the factory paint on the other side (and I'm very picky) He laid down a beautiful coat of BRG.
I haven't weighed in on the original question yet. I'm pretty much a purist, but I'm in favor of a complete repaint in the new color. If you have to respray the entire car anyway, to me it is worth the extra effort and expense (although if you do the stripping yourself, it probably isn't that much more) to repaint it in a color you know you will never see on the same vintage XK.
That said, I'd avoid the black wheels. Silver is nice and classy. Chrome, although I'm not usually a fan, also looks good with Black.
I haven't weighed in on the original question yet. I'm pretty much a purist, but I'm in favor of a complete repaint in the new color. If you have to respray the entire car anyway, to me it is worth the extra effort and expense (although if you do the stripping yourself, it probably isn't that much more) to repaint it in a color you know you will never see on the same vintage XK.
That said, I'd avoid the black wheels. Silver is nice and classy. Chrome, although I'm not usually a fan, also looks good with Black.
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I don't know Spike, after the passenger side of my car was vandalized I had a local shop fix the damage and the side he fixed actually looks better than the factory paint on the other side (and I'm very picky) He laid down a beautiful coat of BRG.
I agree on the black wheels. Go with silver
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Regardless of what painters say, black or BRG are very tricky colours if you are seeking absolute perfection. I had my BRG XJS done at the best shop in town; stripped to bare metal, all panels removed from the frame, wet sanded in between the last few coats, as well as the clear when it was all done....the car does not look as good as I was expecting it to look. It looks very nice. But not what I thought I would get for what I paid. I have already accepted the fact that I will have to live with the work or: a) spend 35k on another repaint or b) send it to the Rolls Royce factory for a repaint...neither of which is going to happen. (I would if I could) If you are prepared for something that does not look 100% assembly line, then go for it. Painters and restoration shops will tell you that they can match a luxury assembly line job. Even at concours, I have yet to see a repainted black or BRG car that has the butter-like absolute fluid finish of an original job.
OTOH, owners of almost any other color are able to get away with cheaper 2K-5K jobs and have a perfect job done, indistiguishable from the original.
OTOH, owners of almost any other color are able to get away with cheaper 2K-5K jobs and have a perfect job done, indistiguishable from the original.
If I was not to get a paint job and least twice as good as a factory finish I would feel quite disgusted at myself. A factory finish often has a moderately peeley finish, they keep the paint thicker so it does not run.
The best finish is a gun finish, but to get away with that, you have to have a excellent booth and excellent equipment, you yourself also have to be top notch, one old paint sprayer always told me, "the art of a good paint finish is a controlled run", nigh on impossible to do.
The other problem you get with paint finishes that have been flat and polished, after a period of time (I am not talking long maybe a few days or a week), they tend to dull off a bit, particularly on the edges or in the corners, what you need to do is leave it for about 3 months, then get a good detail guy in to give it a full mop and wax, it will look a million dollars and last....
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Regardless of what painters say, black or BRG are very tricky colours if you are seeking absolute perfection. I had my BRG XJS done at the best shop in town; stripped to bare metal, all panels removed from the frame, wet sanded in between the last few coats, as well as the clear when it was all done....
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I don't think you have to change the color of your car to make a statement. The car itself is the statement . In my area, from May to Sept. I might see one XK a week on the road. From Sept. through April none.
These cars turn heads no matter what color they are. Had a respray done 2 years ago on my '98 XK8 convert. The clear coat started cracking all over and there were tons of stone chips on the front of the car. This is my daily driver. I went cheap ($1,700) and got cheap. I had to bring it back 3 times to get rid of the orange peel. Will most likely have it done again after the winter. This time I'm going to do my home work and get it done right. If I ever sell the car, which I doubt, I don't want any negotiation because of a color change will be staying with BRG. Jack
These cars turn heads no matter what color they are. Had a respray done 2 years ago on my '98 XK8 convert. The clear coat started cracking all over and there were tons of stone chips on the front of the car. This is my daily driver. I went cheap ($1,700) and got cheap. I had to bring it back 3 times to get rid of the orange peel. Will most likely have it done again after the winter. This time I'm going to do my home work and get it done right. If I ever sell the car, which I doubt, I don't want any negotiation because of a color change will be staying with BRG. Jack
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After much discussion with my brother and reading your posts, we have decided to keep the factory color (dark red) and repaint just the areas that need repainting such as the boot, bonnet, and front windshield frame. This would be a lot cheaper and the car will still turn heads. Now the question is wheels. We for sure want 20" rims with sport tires. What are your thoughts between chrome rims and black rims with chrome lip? Any of your suggestions are welcome. Feel free to give me brand names etc. so I can take a look at them and compare looks and prices. Thanks!