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Old 02-17-2014, 03:00 PM
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Be sure you are in the car with the door closed when attempting to do the reset.

To do this you push the window down button and hold until you hear or feel a click. Then push the window button for the window to close and hear or feel the click. This should be done when you are in the car and the door is closed. The window should operate properly by opening a slight bit when the door is opened and close when the door is closed.

This problem is often caused by a weak battery voltage. 10.5 or below they lose memory settings.

Also have you attempted to spray the door latch with WD40 first prior to pulling the door apart?
 
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Old 02-17-2014, 04:52 PM
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Yes, I have tried it with the doors closed, doors open, top on, top down and about every configuration possible.

Could it have anything to do with the dome light that is now not working also?
 
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Old 02-17-2014, 04:54 PM
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And I also tried the lubrication on the latch in the door.
 
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Old 02-17-2014, 07:21 PM
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If the door latch is not satisfied the interior light will stay on so I would venture to say you have a problem with one of the door switches. It is a shame that the lubricant did not work on your car we had several who had success with the procedure.
 
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Old 02-18-2014, 05:25 AM
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OK Chaps - success!!!

Firstly I would like to mention once again that without the Revs videos I would not have attempted this and in so doing I reference 3 of his masterclasses, The door card removal, the lock/latch assembly removal and the window adjustment videos so many thanks to him for sharing his experiences.

Apart from wanting the car back to normal I was motivated to carry out this work personally because the only alternatives on offer were the usual silly money costs.

The good news is that I was able to source an almost perfect replacement microswitch from Maplins for around £2.

I have included some pictures of the switch and assembly. The switch arm needs to be reformed slightly so that the eccentric that is part of the latch 'hook' activates it correctly but the mounting hole line up exactly with the holes left after removing the faulty switch. Incidentally Randef this is undoubtedly your problem as well as this switch also tells the system that the door is open so will ensure the internal light remains lit as well as watning you that the (affected) door is open and you won't be able to lock the car without the alarm going off.

The switch requires that the 2 mounting holes are drilled out slightly and as you can see, the screws that you will need to mount it will require the frame holes to be countersunk.

Do note (as per Rev Sams video) that it is VERY IMPORTANT to DISCONNECT THE BATTERY as the window mechanism is powerful.

After work has been carried out you will need to short earth lead to + and then set the windows as usual. You may find that you need to experiment slightly with the bend on the switch arm to get the eccentric to activate it correctly. In the locked position, although (removed from the door) the lock claw has a degree of movement, the microswitch must remain depressed until the claw is release (which would normally release the door)

I am guessing that being an American company, Maplins parts are available in the US.

Let me know if anything is unclear and I will try to elucidate further. Meanwhile here are some pictures. The switch connections are the 2 outside ones.

Regards to all,

Larry
 
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Old 02-18-2014, 05:57 AM
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My Mistake, Maplins is a UK operation. I was assuming it was a Tandy/Radio Shack type subsiduary.

Here is the URL : Maplin | Maplin - The Electronics Specialist | Order Online for Fast Delivery

I'm sure they would ship parts if requested.

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From what I understand this switch will work I also have the link on my page

Link D2SW-3L3MS Omron Electronics | Mouser
 
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Congratulations Larry!

It looks like it is time for me to order a microswitch. I'll respond back later today with more questions for you but have go get family at the airport now.

Enjoy your car knowing "you" along with great advice from the friends here on this site have fixed your car.

Have a great day, and again, congratulations,
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Originally Posted by randef
Last night I had my battery tested to see if that were a possibility. They said the battery needed to be replaced, so I did at the tune of $180.00
I no longer test batteries at part stores or dealerships. Every time I go in, what do you know... I "need" a new battery. For kicks one day I'm going to grab one off their shelf, tell them it's my old battery and needs testing. Guaranteed they'll try to sell me one.
 
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Larry, do you believe this failure was a fault of the painter or just a coincidence? I am curious for many reasons. Mostly just as a business owner being curious.
 
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Old 02-20-2014, 03:39 PM
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I am totally convinced that nothing the sprayshop did could have contributed to the fault. I think this instance highlights how difficult it must be for service industries when they are asked to carry out work on elderly vehicles that develop faults during the time the vehicles are in their care.

My original suspicions were based on the fact that they initially forgot to connect up the electric mirrors after the paint job.

Regards,

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