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Old 06-06-2023, 10:34 AM
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My project keeps on giving. My horn has never worked plus the airbag light keeps flashing so as the existing steering wheel was in a bad state I thought I'd change it anyway which might even deal with the issues but I'm not that lucky.

The horn is still not working.
Airbag only flashes when I push the airbag/horn.

As the fuses are all good and the connectors to the steering wheel were fine I'm guessing it could be a lose connection with the connectors themselves, does anyone know how to check these?

Has anyone ever had the same issue?

Any advice would be appreciated.

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Old 06-06-2023, 01:07 PM
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I believe the air bag indicator always flashes to deliver a numerical code. 3 flashes (3) pause one flash (1). Look up air bag code 31 in that ironically my) case. Light repeats a couple of times then goes solid on.

Can you get a handle on the trouble code flashed?

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Old 06-08-2023, 08:56 AM
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Thanks for the reply John.

I had to charge the battery which is the reason for the delay in my reply but now the light is not flashing it just a solid light, any ideas what this means?

Also has anyone had the same issue with the horn not working?
 
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Old 06-08-2023, 09:55 AM
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Gosh, you got me. I thought they always flashed a trouble code b4 going solid.

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Look up TSB 3501-09

Might help even though is an XJ TSB

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Old 06-08-2023, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnken
Look up TSB 3501-09

Might help even though is an XJ TSB

John
When I first changed the steering wheel it only flashed when you tried to use the horn but since I gave the battery a good charge its now just a sold light. 😞
 
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Old 06-08-2023, 02:48 PM
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I found this link which lists the error codes for the airbag which others might find interesting.

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...g-codes-39056/

I'm guessing I need to count the flashes on start up?
 
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For horn operation, check fuses #11 and #13 (both 10A) in the engine compartment fusebox. If they're good, check the horn relay (in the same location) either by substitution or bridging pins 3 & 5. That will confirm everything downstream of the BPM.

 

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Old 06-09-2023, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by michaelh
For horn operation, check fuses #11 and #13 (both 10A) in the engine compartment fusebox. If they're good, check the horn relay (in the same location) either by substitution or bridging pins 3 & 5. That will confirm everything downstream of the BPM.

Thanks for the advice Michael. The fuses are good so I'll check the relay when I go to the car later.

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Old 06-09-2023, 08:39 AM
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Johnken - the flashing goes 2-2-3-2-3-2-3-2-3-2-1 =.27 but no 27 on the link above or is it 22? (drivers Side Airbag circuit fault)

Also I cant find TSB 3501-09 do you have a copy you could attach?

Michael- I changed the horn reply with a number already in the car plus a spare I have but no luck, do you know anything else I can try?

thanks again for your help.
 

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Old 06-09-2023, 10:17 AM
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I'm trying to establish if the horns are actually working, or if they're just not being fired. Suggest bridging 3 & 5 on the relay socket, but I wonder... can you set the alarm off? Lock with the fob, unlock with the key, open the door and wait a few seconds.

You should hear the 'countdown' beeps from the steering column loudspeaker. Have the fob/key ready to cancel the alarm when it goes off. If you do hear the horns, then the issue is upstream of the BPM or, less likely, the BPM itself.
 

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Old 06-09-2023, 05:24 PM
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Unfortunately Michael my fobs aren't working either and never have really which is another issue so I cant try as advised, now and again the passenger door locks and unlocks repeatedly but that's all when I press the button.

the car is a challenge. 😄
 
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Old 06-09-2023, 05:28 PM
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Doesn't your car go into 'countdown' mode when you unlock with the key?
 
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Old 06-09-2023, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by michaelh
Doesn't your car go into 'countdown' mode when you unlock with the key?
To be honest I don't know what the countdown mode is, I lock it using the key and the lights flash which I assume is shutting down the car?
 
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That's just what I call it - the handbook calls it a ticking noise.
I've attached the Security System literature - have a look at the 'Key Operation' section.
 
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That's a really interesting read to be fair Michael. The car does tick/go in to count down mode.
 
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