Strut tower bracing
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Strut tower bracing
I stumbled on this photo of an '02 Aston Martin Vanquish, and reaffirmed my ability to reinvent the wheel.
That sure looks like a carbon fibre strut tower brace to me: I had asked the guy who is making C.F. ashtray lids about the suitability of the material for this application, and there is the answer. My thought was a larger assembly that also ties into the cowl, but even a simple fabrication like the one pictured would help to stiffen any XK, and might even reduce the cowl shake that Gordo has correctly identified in his convertible.
If nobody is making these for Xk's yet, and I have never read of one, they should. Thoughts?
That sure looks like a carbon fibre strut tower brace to me: I had asked the guy who is making C.F. ashtray lids about the suitability of the material for this application, and there is the answer. My thought was a larger assembly that also ties into the cowl, but even a simple fabrication like the one pictured would help to stiffen any XK, and might even reduce the cowl shake that Gordo has correctly identified in his convertible.
If nobody is making these for Xk's yet, and I have never read of one, they should. Thoughts?
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I'm believe I'm experiencing the same shakes as Gordo, jitters after bumps. I'd be interested in this item if it's ever made available and cost isn't galactic.
I've seen aftermarket front and rear sway bars available. Think they would help if they were thicker than oem?
I've seen aftermarket front and rear sway bars available. Think they would help if they were thicker than oem?
Last edited by Montauke; 03-25-2009 at 10:33 PM.
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Gordo's Jitters
I don't think a STB would solve my cowl shake. The issue is body flex front to rear, caused by removing the roof structure. An STB will lock together the two shock towers to keep them from moving inboard/outboard. But that will do nothing for flex between the A-pillar and cross members behind the rear seat. I need a thicker trans tunnel and/or stronger rocker panel subframes.
BTW the material of choice for an STB application would be extruded aluminum. And it would have to closely follow the manifold profile. There isn't much airspace between the top of the plastic manifold and the engine blanket on the underside of the hood...er bonnet. I have the same fitment issues on the STB in my 300zx
BTW the material of choice for an STB application would be extruded aluminum. And it would have to closely follow the manifold profile. There isn't much airspace between the top of the plastic manifold and the engine blanket on the underside of the hood...er bonnet. I have the same fitment issues on the STB in my 300zx
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Would something like a thicker aftermarket x-brace help to minimize the shake? Such braces are available for BMWs and S2000s.
http://www.inlinefour.com/spoons2chasx.html
Since the XK8 still has bits of the XJS, I found something called the "V&A Spiteri cruciform brace" mentioned in a XJS auction, which I suspected goes underneath the middle of the car rather than the front like the current XK8 x-brace:
http://cars2.ebay.com.au/Jaguar-XJS-...mZ140307657555
Upon googling, V&A Spiteri is an Australia company that handles Jaguar parts, but it's website doesn't provide much info, and none at all about this cruciform brace.
And I found this bit of info:
http://www.justanswer.com/questions/...-1990-xjs-conv
This can all be moot if these XJS parts are incompatible, though. But maybe someone has an idea or some leads to further info?
http://www.inlinefour.com/spoons2chasx.html
Since the XK8 still has bits of the XJS, I found something called the "V&A Spiteri cruciform brace" mentioned in a XJS auction, which I suspected goes underneath the middle of the car rather than the front like the current XK8 x-brace:
http://cars2.ebay.com.au/Jaguar-XJS-...mZ140307657555
Upon googling, V&A Spiteri is an Australia company that handles Jaguar parts, but it's website doesn't provide much info, and none at all about this cruciform brace.
And I found this bit of info:
http://www.justanswer.com/questions/...-1990-xjs-conv
This can all be moot if these XJS parts are incompatible, though. But maybe someone has an idea or some leads to further info?
Last edited by Montauke; 03-26-2009 at 11:12 PM.
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Geez Gordo, I told you a year ago to weld your doors shut and be done with it. As for the "STB", it just seemed like a more viable suggestion, after seeing that Aston had already concluded it was beneficial. The one in their pic smacks of $800 to my eye, but making a cast alloy piece to clear everything and still fit under the bonnet looks like a more elaborate job.
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this is just me thinking out loud, but what about a metal bar in the cabin that ran over the rear seats which are relatively useless for carrying passengers anyway. And it could also support as a platform for a wind deflector.
http://www.climairuk.com/climair/pro...productid=2804
Kind of like the wind deflectors available now for the convertible which install by the seatbelt posts. Rather than screw in the bar, perhaps another juncture point that would provide structural rigidity or weld that bar in there. The rear seats could also be entirely taken out like the latter day 1980s Fiat/Pinifarina Spiders and just replaced with a carpeted shelf.
http://www.climairuk.com/climair/pro...productid=2804
Kind of like the wind deflectors available now for the convertible which install by the seatbelt posts. Rather than screw in the bar, perhaps another juncture point that would provide structural rigidity or weld that bar in there. The rear seats could also be entirely taken out like the latter day 1980s Fiat/Pinifarina Spiders and just replaced with a carpeted shelf.
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Montauke: the flex is longitudinal... front to rear, hence any bracing would need to be running in the same direction as the length of the car. STB and rear bulkhead bracing is side to side.. not end to end. Furthermore, any stiffening of other parts of the suspension and chassis would only serve to emphasize the flex in the central core of the unibody. gordo