Stumbling under WOT
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I measured can bus resistance at OBD test adapter connection and found 120ohms while it should be 60ohms because two 120 termination resistors in parallel normally. Next I disconnected the J-gate can bus connectors (one from Instrument cluster and other from ecu) and both gave 60ohms (from their single termination resistor, as one is in instrument cluster and other in ABS unit, behind ecu in the bus that direction). So culprit of not having 2 parralel resistors at readout obd connector could only be J-Gate thingy..😉. And it was👍.
So glad with this forum. I knew absolutely nothing about can bus just weeks ago and could find this based purely on info put here by enthousiasts!
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Amazing in that it was in the shifter, until you think about it. A John Deere engineer told me it is so much easier to run a bus line (or two!) than run a wrist-sized cable for controls/feedback.
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I’m sorry to revive this old thread, but I thought it might be useful to someone else reading this trying to track down a solution to this issue.
The culprit for this symptom that plagued my car when I bought it was the canister purge valve. - A cheap fix, and a common issue in some Ford emissions systems.
I didn’t see this mentioned in the thread. In my case it didn’t trip the check engine light - at first. When it finally did, I was able to find the problem.
The culprit for this symptom that plagued my car when I bought it was the canister purge valve. - A cheap fix, and a common issue in some Ford emissions systems.
I didn’t see this mentioned in the thread. In my case it didn’t trip the check engine light - at first. When it finally did, I was able to find the problem.
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I’m sorry to revive this old thread, but I thought it might be useful to someone else reading this trying to track down a solution to this issue.
The culprit for this symptom that plagued my car when I bought it was the canister purge valve. - A cheap fix, and a common issue in some Ford emissions systems.
I didn’t see this mentioned in the thread. In my case it didn’t trip the check engine light - at first. When it finally did, I was able to find the problem.
The culprit for this symptom that plagued my car when I bought it was the canister purge valve. - A cheap fix, and a common issue in some Ford emissions systems.
I didn’t see this mentioned in the thread. In my case it didn’t trip the check engine light - at first. When it finally did, I was able to find the problem.
Makes sense!
As a inoperative fuel pump can give this stumbling by lack of fuel pressure, so can a vacuum in the tank opose the fuel pressure I guess?
Few posts above I posted J-Gate was disturbing the bus, and caused strange stumbling.
This was never proven but problem was solved once J-Gate CB was replaced.
Later however, the car became worse and even brand specialist could not access the busses..
The car ran, but did not shift. Displayed all codes and messages imaginable.
Months of struggle later it turned out to be an bad connection in fuse panel (inside, not at fuse) powering the TCM.
So TCM intermittend (and low) power, that is something not reported often..
All fuses were measured and voltage on them as well many times over again.
Only until I measured at TCM side of the loom it revealed itself.
Turned out that when pushing the fuse (box) with the measuring probe, the internal discontinuity closed by the force...So seemed okay.
in hindsight, it could well be that the discontinuity was occuring at high vibration initially. Taking TCM out briefly, and giving ECU confusion what to do (retard power)
On the bright side: Learned a lot about the car:-)..
And still am.
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The important word here was try to get to 5000 rpm. You cannot do it at a standstill as the limiter kicks in, you will just get a bouncing rev counter. Try it and you will see what I mean. You do not have to be going fast. Using the J gate go up a steep hill in 2 and you will soon get it there, if it can get there that is.
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