Upper Shock Mount Replaced
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The rear packing is a 6.5mm shim, and that's what I reffering to, terminology messes everything up. Anyways, the new dims with the front shim added to drivers side. To be clear, Brutal did not recommend adding this shim but I made and did it in an attempt to get my camber back in speck on the front.
DF 15-1/16 PF 15-1/16
DR 15-7/8" PR 15-13/16
Yeah, they're all pretty close. I'm sure when I do the passenger shock mount it'll change a little but I'm just trying to get it to align properly. I've spent my fixin wad this year. If it's off next year or I hit the lottery (darn I forgot to play) I'll get the springs and fix it right.
Thanks again for all the help guys.
DF 15-1/16 PF 15-1/16
DR 15-7/8" PR 15-13/16
Yeah, they're all pretty close. I'm sure when I do the passenger shock mount it'll change a little but I'm just trying to get it to align properly. I've spent my fixin wad this year. If it's off next year or I hit the lottery (darn I forgot to play) I'll get the springs and fix it right.
Thanks again for all the help guys.
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#24
Your welcome squirrel, I'm still waiting for the passenger one to come in and my passenger side dash still has something living in it. I'll use the spring compression tools I made instead of the drill press this time and repost some pics. Much safer way to go and it won't even cost me any beer.
#25
and for the record....here are a few shots of the new shock mount being disassembled, as well as the old one apart and the two next to each other. What a mess!
Last edited by viscoussquirrel; 08-23-2010 at 07:27 AM.
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Excellent photos. Is that degree of deterioration typical for these upper mounts. If so, it would seem that a better material/formulation could be found for the polymer gasket. The photos suggest that the parent materials totally degrade. One has to wonder after all this time why this part has not been updated with currently available materials that are not attacked and broken down so extensively.
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Excellent photos. Is that degree of deterioration typical for these upper mounts. If so, it would seem that a better material/formulation could be found for the polymer gasket. The photos suggest that the parent materials totally degrade. One has to wonder after all this time why this part has not been updated with currently available materials that are not attacked and broken down so extensively.
#30
Obviously you got something completely different from that comment than what was intended. It's my belief that planned obsolescence is sad, though it is an industry practice. One that came back to bite American automakers in the *** when they planned it a bit sooner than their Japanese counterparts.
Furthermore, I find the decline and probable extinction of the British marquee in America to be a sad thing. Beyond that, resale value of these particular cars get's murdered by the poor engineering of various components wrapped up in astronomical parts costs. Again. Sad.
Furthermore, I find the decline and probable extinction of the British marquee in America to be a sad thing. Beyond that, resale value of these particular cars get's murdered by the poor engineering of various components wrapped up in astronomical parts costs. Again. Sad.
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#32
Obviously you got something completely different from that comment than what was intended. It's my belief that planned obsolescence is sad, though it is an industry practice. One that came back to bite American automakers in the *** when they planed it a bit sooner than their Japanese counterparts.
Furhtemore, I find the decline and probable extinction of the British marquee in America to be a sad thing. Beyond that, resale value of these particular cars get's murdered by the poor engineering of various components wrapped up in astronomical parts costs. Again. Sad.
Furhtemore, I find the decline and probable extinction of the British marquee in America to be a sad thing. Beyond that, resale value of these particular cars get's murdered by the poor engineering of various components wrapped up in astronomical parts costs. Again. Sad.
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#34
I just replaced my front shocks/struts and upper shock mounts on my 2003 XKR. I wouldn't do it myself again. Even reading all the great input and watching a video gave me the courage to tackle the job myself, it was hard work. I'll pay someone if I need to do it again. That being said heres a couple things I will comment on. You can compress the springs with a couple sets of spring compression took kits. I tried with just one set that I picked up from Advanced Auto Parts. They have a tool loaner program. You pay for the tools up front as a deposit and get every everything back when you return the tool. Great program. Anyway I tried to get the springs compressed with one set ant couldn't get the spring compressed enough. So I went to another Advanced Auto Parts and got another set. This did the trick. Also, I have a small air compressor and an air ratchet and impact wrench. I couldn't have done the job without the air tools. Trying to use a ratchet set just will not work. After finally compressing the springs enough to remove the shock I was able to remove the old shock and shock mount and replace with the new ones. The shock mounts definitely needed replacing however both shocks looked great. I decided in advance to replace them anyway because of the 80,000 miles on the car. With all of the work involved in replacing the shock mounts I didn't want to do it again. NOTE: when removing the upper control arm, be extremely careful to set aside the spacers in a way that you can put them back exactly the way they came out. When I did the first side I mistakingly allowed them to get mixed up. I used the other side to "ball-park" where they went back in. The car drived great but I think I need another front end alignment. I saved the shocks because they look to be in great condition and possibly had been replaced before I bought the car about a month ago. At $485.00 per shock I thought I might offer them for sale to another XKR owner who can't afford the price for new ones. I have just about finished all of the preventive maintenance I can think of. I've replaced all fluids including the A/T transmission pan & filter, new synthetic motor oil, spark plugs, nitrogen in the tires, tires balanced & rotated and a front end alignment although I think with the replacement of the shocks and shock mount I may need another alignment. I've topped off the green hydraulic fluid for the convertible top. The car looks great and runs better. Thanks to all the input from this forum. I've found the Jag pretty easy to work on so far.
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As a side note you dont need to remove the upper control arms. Just take out the wheel arch liners and work the shock assemblies to the back of the front fenders to get them out. And yes be sure and get a alignment. You changed the ride height with new mounts and this changes camber which changes the toe setting. Incorrect toe will quickly wearout the front tires
#36
I've used spring compressors quite a few times to swap springs and struts/shocks on various cars without incident. The compressed spring could be dangerous, so in recent years I've upgraded to a better compressor ($40) that has safety locks to reduce the chance the spring can escape the tool.
#37
Buffalo, be clear when you bring it into the dealer for an alignment, mine (and I believe most follow this policy) only check caster (which you jacked when dropping those shims and washers), they do not 'adjust' or correct them as part of the alignment. Now, separately, under a different service item, they may reinstall the shims correctly.
#38
Thanks again for the input. H20Boy thanks for your continued input. I spoke to my local mechanic and he told me just about the same thing about the front end alignment. Does anyone know of a diagram that shows the correct shim placement. Based on copying the other side I believe my shims are about 90% correct. My mechanic said that if some of the very thin shims are out of order he didn't believe it would be a problem. The car rides great and doesn't pull either way Runs hands off straight as an arrow at all speeds up to 80 MPH +. I will have another alignment done anyway and I'll mention to only check the caster. Thanks again. Buffalo
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