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Old 10-18-2019, 08:16 AM
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The VIN shown on the driver door post ends in the letters "CS" The VIN printed on driver side windshield tag ends in digits "07" as is expected. Does anyone know why these VIN's would be different.
 
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Car details may help.
 
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A posted picture of the door vin would help. But there are no letters ever for the l;ast 5
 
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Old 10-18-2019, 09:45 AM
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Your forum profile shows you have an early XK8. As you can see from the Jaguar VIN reference, all vehicle serial numbers (the last 6 in the VIN) are numeric strings:



Be interesting to see a photo of your door pillar label.

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OK....here's the tag from the door post. This is a 98 XK8. The actual last 6 digits of the VIN are 018707. I have no idea were the CS came from
 
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I was going to suggest contacting JDHT (Jaguar Daimler Heritage Trust) for their factory records but looking at their X100 VIN summary, I don't think they will have any further information.



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Thank you for the reply...I have asked JDHT the question...but I haven't heard back yet. This VIN issue is really odd. I have run the CARFAX and VIN Checkup reports and nothing out of the ordinary shows up. I am the 3rd owner of this car and have the complete maintenance records...everything looks normal...so I've got to assume that this car came from the factory with this discrepancy. I'll keep looking.
 
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Old 10-18-2019, 11:26 AM
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Hmm interesting! My 96\97 doesn't have letters either! Of course looking at my vins, my XJS comes up as invalid! 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
 
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Hmm interesting! My 96\97 doesn't have letters either! Of course looking at my vins, my XJS comes up as invalid! 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
Your XJS is likely to be from the era when the US assigned "new" VIN's to import vehicles ......

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It’s got to be a typo. Someone had a bad day at his/her desk. LOL!

VIN no. is in other places in the car too not just in the windscreen slot. Check above your battery.
 
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Well...it's a little hard to imagine that a typo on the ID tag would have made it out the door....but I can't find any logical reason that would account for the letters on the VIN. Everywhere else, the windscreen, above the battery, the current title to the car, all of the maintenance records and even the original window sticker from 1998 have the correct VIN indicated.

Very curious.
 
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Old 10-18-2019, 02:20 PM
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So I checked a couple of other sites and it came up fine. Oh well, who knows
 
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Originally Posted by Timeisrelative
So I checked a couple of other sites and it came up fine. Oh well, who knows

Still, the "CS" is weird. Hopefully someone will come along who can explain

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Originally Posted by GGG
Your XJS is likely to be from the era when the US assigned "new" VIN's to import vehicles ......

Graham

Causing lots of confusion to those who make VIN Decoder web pages!

To clarify just a bit, though.....

The USA didn't assign the VINs. That is, when the cars arrived to the USA, USA officials did not assign or change the VINs.

Jaguar assigned the VINs in accordance with USA requirements. When the cars hit USA shores they already had USA -compliant VINs assigned.

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That plate is weird!

Well done noticing it.... maybe there are others who also have weird plates but never noticed.
 
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Originally Posted by DavidYau
It’s got to be a typo. Someone had a bad day at his/her desk. LOL!

VIN no. is in other places in the car too not just in the windscreen slot. Check above your battery.
The world's most boring job, copying build information over to the VIN label. It looks like they copied the paint code by mistake.
 
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Old 10-23-2019, 07:26 PM
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When I imported my car to Portugal from the UK, the mandatory test included a check of all three VIN markers. If there had been a discrepancy such as this, the car would not have got through. An extraordinary event, in my view!
 
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Got me wondering so I went out and checked my 98. All four vin #s that I know of on mine match, no letters at the end of the vin. Be interesting to see what he finds out...
 
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I thought I'd outsmart you all and figure out what the "CS" means. Went and looked at my 99XK8 VIN - no extra letters.

Then spent the last hour trying to figure out what "CS" might mean. Found almost nothing. Found one reference to what is called a VIN "trailing code" that a factory can add internally to the end of the VIN to track the vehicle's destination. Their chart said that CS means "no destination". (But this was referenced in general for VIN codes. not for Jaguar.)

Now I am caught up in this mystery....
Please solve!
 
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Old 10-29-2019, 05:29 AM
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Ok, you asked for help. You got it....

So what does our friend Google say? CS is clearly an acronym. I believe it stands for Constant Speeding, because it is unlikely to be Catastrophically Slow.

For another 300 or so alternatives check here. Acronyms of CS

I hope my undoubted but questionable erudition helps.

On a more serious note, I wonder whether it could indeed have anything to do with proposed export country, as Tijoe suggests. But if that were the case then one would expect many exported Jags to share the same CS letters. This really is an intriguing issue, because if it does mean an unassigned country for export, then surely all left hand drive cars should have the same designation.
 

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