Will XKR and XK8 be a future classic
#141
T0 whom??? My experience
To whom???? You must be kidding. A couple of months ago I was parked next to a 2016 XF and my 2004 XKR was the one that attracted all the attention. The fact is there were a couple of ladies that thought mine was the newer. Yes they were obviously not knowledgeable about Jaguar, but they knew what they and many others liked.
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tberg (05-25-2016)
#142
My experience is with Jim's as well. One: I frequently receive inquiring compliments: "That's gorgeous! What is it?" And two: Everyone is stunned to find out it's 13 years old.
When I have contractors come to my house for an estimate cost of future work, I always make sure the garage door is closed so they DON'T think I can actually afford to buy an exotic.
No - most people don't see us driving these cars as some kind of "discount alternative". They are genuinely envious.
That said - If "I" could afford to live in Monte Carlo, ..... well, "that" would be a horse of a different color! - lol
When I have contractors come to my house for an estimate cost of future work, I always make sure the garage door is closed so they DON'T think I can actually afford to buy an exotic.
No - most people don't see us driving these cars as some kind of "discount alternative". They are genuinely envious.
That said - If "I" could afford to live in Monte Carlo, ..... well, "that" would be a horse of a different color! - lol
#143
The XK8 is a beautiful car that makes it's driver look like a million bucks. There will probably always be people that would like to own one. Since I will never be able to afford an E type I could be happy with an XK8. The XJS is a dramatic looking car that makes the driver look like a real enthusiast. The XJS was the nearest thing that Jaguar built to a classic true exotic car. The V12 puts it in a different class. That is why I bought one. Surely not for everyone. And surely not forgotten by any means.
I just don't get why some random dude from Monaco came here to cross post in this forum about these cars being fancy fords. I don't come in to the XJS forum and point out that a lumped SBC XJS is more "reliable and faster" (not true, most seem so half assed, and irrelevant since no one asked).
#144
IF you want to know the answer, ask your kids. I've been a full time Antique Dealer since the early 1970's. One thing that I can tell you cart blanch, is that future desirability and prices are determined from generation to generation. I have watched what were once robust market sectors totally tank as the collectors of the Baby Boomer generation aged and other markets wake up and run wildly at the same time as the next generation grew up.
What we like, the next generation could have a very different opinion on. If you want a good hint of what future desirability will be for the X-100 cars, ask your kids and their friends (if you can pry them away from their gadgets). I would think they would choose a Scion with a gigantic Spoiler and fluorescent green wheels over and XKR.
What we like, the next generation could have a very different opinion on. If you want a good hint of what future desirability will be for the X-100 cars, ask your kids and their friends (if you can pry them away from their gadgets). I would think they would choose a Scion with a gigantic Spoiler and fluorescent green wheels over and XKR.
#148
Beautiful is classic... Timeless... Looks beautiful even in the sea of modern cars. The XKR/8 is a beautiful car that MOST people still admire and think is modern.... Stop being a ----, rhymes with *****!!!
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SeismicGuy (05-22-2016)
#149
This may have been posted before and the article is five years old, but check #2:
Top ten budget supercars - Auto Trader UK
The cars have definitely appreciated since then.
Also, the new F Type looks like a Miata on 'roids to me, albeit a powerhouse.
Furthermore, last year in Tahoe, with the top down on my triple black 2003 XKR with 20" BBS wheels, I was parking next to a group of teen boys and girls headed to the beach, aged approx. 15-17. They all stared and one called out, "Sick ride, dude!"
Nuff said.....
Top ten budget supercars - Auto Trader UK
The cars have definitely appreciated since then.
Also, the new F Type looks like a Miata on 'roids to me, albeit a powerhouse.
Furthermore, last year in Tahoe, with the top down on my triple black 2003 XKR with 20" BBS wheels, I was parking next to a group of teen boys and girls headed to the beach, aged approx. 15-17. They all stared and one called out, "Sick ride, dude!"
Nuff said.....
#150
About Jags and Rice burners
The interesting thing about some of those rice burners is that many run better, handle better & are more reliable and can kick tail on many of my old muscle cars. Had two 69 Mach I's, a 68 Charger, 82 Trans Am. Drum Brakes, poor suspension, carburated fuel, points and no Z rated tires. Would not want to race any of them on a winding road toe to toe with a supercharged rice burner.
#151
I still miss my very first new car - a 1974 Datsun 260Z with those twin Hitachi carburetors you were referring to. Kept it until I finally sold it to a work colleague's 18-year-old son in 1986. He had been pestering me to sell him the car for a couple of years and I finally agreed. Sure wish I had it back today (in original showroom condition, of course)....
#152
I still miss my very first new car - a 1974 Datsun 260Z with those twin Hitachi carburetors you were referring to. Kept it until I finally sold it to a work colleague's 18-year-old son in 1986. He had been pestering me to sell him the car for a couple of years and I finally agreed. Sure wish I had it back today (in original showroom condition, of course)....
#153
YES. No doubt, I always do this. They are welcome to judge me by my faded white 1993 Chevy K3500 diesel that's parked off to the side instead. Works.
#154
I still miss my very first new car - a 1974 Datsun 260Z with those twin Hitachi carburetors you were referring to. Kept it until I finally sold it to a work colleague's 18-year-old son in 1986. He had been pestering me to sell him the car for a couple of years and I finally agreed. Sure wish I had it back today (in original showroom condition, of course)....
#155
I still have my 1978 280Z, bought new in 1978. It's a beautiful car, but I never drive it because it has not aged gracefully. The whole plastic trunk area creaks and squeaks, cheap interior, and woefully underpowered; it just feels old. My much older Pantera, on the other hand, is much tighter, certainly more powerful, and feels much more connected and fun to drive.
#156
In my opinion Datsun ruined the Z-car for the 1975 model year and beyond. The 240 and 260 had the twin Hitachi carburetors. Starting in 1975 with the 280, everything was fuel injected. Today, the original 240 is probably the most valuable and most desirable (although the sheet metal steel quality was not the best and the vast majority of Z-cars built in the 1970s have long since rusted away)....
#157
In my opinion Datsun ruined the Z-car for the 1975 model year and beyond. The 240 and 260 had the twin Hitachi carburetors. Starting in 1975 with the 280, everything was fuel injected. Today, the original 240 is probably the most valuable and most desirable (although the sheet metal steel quality was not the best and the vast majority of Z-cars built in the 1970s have long since rusted away)....
Because the 240z - 280z was basically the same car with the better motor starting in 75' plus as you stated the sheet metal was better in some areas too. Being that the 260 was the cross road year to the the 280 engine / fuel injection. You know that the #1 engine swap in the Z community is to take the 75-83 z/ZX engine and replace it into the 240-260.
But I agree I wish I could get my hands on a 70' 240Z I would celebrate Xmas again!!!!!
Hey anymore litigation?! I love your dogmatic energy against the insurance company in small claims court!
#158
I still have my 1978 280Z, bought new in 1978. It's a beautiful car, but I never drive it because it has not aged gracefully. The whole plastic trunk area creaks and squeaks, cheap interior, and woefully underpowered; it just feels old. My much older Pantera, on the other hand, is much tighter, certainly more powerful, and feels much more connected and fun to drive.
Love Panteras, certainly a fun car to own I'm sure. I betcha it's a car show attention getter everywhere you go
#159
Getting Off Topic But I Can't Resist
I still miss my very first new car - a 1974 Datsun 260Z with those twin Hitachi carburetors you were referring to. Kept it until I finally sold it to a work colleague's 18-year-old son in 1986. He had been pestering me to sell him the car for a couple of years and I finally agreed. Sure wish I had it back today (in original showroom condition, of course)....
I still have my 1978 280Z, bought new in 1978. It's a beautiful car, but I never drive it because it has not aged gracefully. The whole plastic trunk area creaks and squeaks, cheap interior, and woefully underpowered; it just feels old. My much older Pantera, on the other hand, is much tighter, certainly more powerful, and feels much more connected and fun to drive.
Like carbs huh? Lol
Because the 240z - 280z was basically the same car with the better motor starting in 75' plus as you stated the sheet metal was better in some areas too. Being that the 260 was the cross road year to the the 280 engine / fuel injection. You know that the #1 engine swap in the Z community is to take the 75-83 z/ZX engine and replace it into the 240-260.
But I agree I wish I could get my hands on a 70' 240Z I would celebrate Xmas again!!!!!
Hey anymore litigation?! I love your dogmatic energy against the insurance company in small claims court!
Because the 240z - 280z was basically the same car with the better motor starting in 75' plus as you stated the sheet metal was better in some areas too. Being that the 260 was the cross road year to the the 280 engine / fuel injection. You know that the #1 engine swap in the Z community is to take the 75-83 z/ZX engine and replace it into the 240-260.
But I agree I wish I could get my hands on a 70' 240Z I would celebrate Xmas again!!!!!
Hey anymore litigation?! I love your dogmatic energy against the insurance company in small claims court!
I really think these two cars complement each other.
#160