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To whom???? You must be kidding. A couple of months ago I was parked next to a 2016 XF and my 2004 XKR was the one that attracted all the attention. The fact is there were a couple of ladies that thought mine was the newer. Yes they were obviously not knowledgeable about Jaguar, but they knew what they and many others liked.
 
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My experience is with Jim's as well. One: I frequently receive inquiring compliments: "That's gorgeous! What is it?" And two: Everyone is stunned to find out it's 13 years old.

When I have contractors come to my house for an estimate cost of future work, I always make sure the garage door is closed so they DON'T think I can actually afford to buy an exotic.

No - most people don't see us driving these cars as some kind of "discount alternative". They are genuinely envious.

That said - If "I" could afford to live in Monte Carlo, ..... well, "that" would be a horse of a different color! - lol
 
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The XK8 is a beautiful car that makes it's driver look like a million bucks. There will probably always be people that would like to own one. Since I will never be able to afford an E type I could be happy with an XK8. The XJS is a dramatic looking car that makes the driver look like a real enthusiast. The XJS was the nearest thing that Jaguar built to a classic true exotic car. The V12 puts it in a different class. That is why I bought one. Surely not for everyone. And surely not forgotten by any means.
The thing is that I have no dislike for the XJS, and would actually be VERY interested if I had the space and ability to own a classic like it. I currently don't have room for a classic car that can't hold it's weight as an everyday driver (even in snow weather). A late V12 6L car would be something I'd ****** up in a heartbeat.

I just don't get why some random dude from Monaco came here to cross post in this forum about these cars being fancy fords. I don't come in to the XJS forum and point out that a lumped SBC XJS is more "reliable and faster" (not true, most seem so half assed, and irrelevant since no one asked).
 
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IF you want to know the answer, ask your kids. I've been a full time Antique Dealer since the early 1970's. One thing that I can tell you cart blanch, is that future desirability and prices are determined from generation to generation. I have watched what were once robust market sectors totally tank as the collectors of the Baby Boomer generation aged and other markets wake up and run wildly at the same time as the next generation grew up.


What we like, the next generation could have a very different opinion on. If you want a good hint of what future desirability will be for the X-100 cars, ask your kids and their friends (if you can pry them away from their gadgets). I would think they would choose a Scion with a gigantic Spoiler and fluorescent green wheels over and XKR.
 
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I have to honest. If I had a choice of convertibles, just on looks alone, I'd love a late model six cylinder XJS. Don't know why, but I always loved the looks of that car.

However, when it comes to coupes - I've got mine!!!
 
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To whom? To Be honest it looks a bit dated so it more looks like you can't afford a new one to most
Wow, did someone kick sand in your face over at the Ferrari forum? Sounds like a description of the F355 to me.
 
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This thread seems to be a troll-magnet for some reason.
 
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To whom? To Be honest it looks a bit dated so it more looks like you can't afford a new one to most
Beautiful is classic... Timeless... Looks beautiful even in the sea of modern cars. The XKR/8 is a beautiful car that MOST people still admire and think is modern.... Stop being a ----, rhymes with *****!!!
 
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This may have been posted before and the article is five years old, but check #2:

Top ten budget supercars - Auto Trader UK

The cars have definitely appreciated since then.

Also, the new F Type looks like a Miata on 'roids to me, albeit a powerhouse.

Furthermore, last year in Tahoe, with the top down on my triple black 2003 XKR with 20" BBS wheels, I was parking next to a group of teen boys and girls headed to the beach, aged approx. 15-17. They all stared and one called out, "Sick ride, dude!"

Nuff said.....
 
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The interesting thing about some of those rice burners is that many run better, handle better & are more reliable and can kick tail on many of my old muscle cars. Had two 69 Mach I's, a 68 Charger, 82 Trans Am. Drum Brakes, poor suspension, carburated fuel, points and no Z rated tires. Would not want to race any of them on a winding road toe to toe with a supercharged rice burner.
It is interesting to look at the design of the original Datsun 240Z in 1971. The engine is almost identical to the xk-120 6 cycl DOHC with a Japanese copy of the SU carburetors used in the XK and early E types.
 
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I still miss my very first new car - a 1974 Datsun 260Z with those twin Hitachi carburetors you were referring to. Kept it until I finally sold it to a work colleague's 18-year-old son in 1986. He had been pestering me to sell him the car for a couple of years and I finally agreed. Sure wish I had it back today (in original showroom condition, of course)....
 
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I still miss my very first new car - a 1974 Datsun 260Z with those twin Hitachi carburetors you were referring to. Kept it until I finally sold it to a work colleague's 18-year-old son in 1986. He had been pestering me to sell him the car for a couple of years and I finally agreed. Sure wish I had it back today (in original showroom condition, of course)....
I don't even want to think about the Z. It was the final nail in the coffin of my beloved GT6. That said, I later owned TWO 280ZX 2+2s. They were wonderful GTs, but not nearly as good as my XKR.
 
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Originally Posted by scardini1
When I have contractors come to my house for an estimate cost of future work, I always make sure the garage door is closed so they DON'T think I can actually afford to buy an exotic.
YES. No doubt, I always do this. They are welcome to judge me by my faded white 1993 Chevy K3500 diesel that's parked off to the side instead. Works.
 
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Originally Posted by Jon89
I still miss my very first new car - a 1974 Datsun 260Z with those twin Hitachi carburetors you were referring to. Kept it until I finally sold it to a work colleague's 18-year-old son in 1986. He had been pestering me to sell him the car for a couple of years and I finally agreed. Sure wish I had it back today (in original showroom condition, of course)....
I see you had the lone wolf 74' 260Z... I have a project 75' 280Z & a super nice 95' 300ZX 2+2 coupe now. We had an 81' 280zx turbo in 86' nice fun car!
 
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I still have my 1978 280Z, bought new in 1978. It's a beautiful car, but I never drive it because it has not aged gracefully. The whole plastic trunk area creaks and squeaks, cheap interior, and woefully underpowered; it just feels old. My much older Pantera, on the other hand, is much tighter, certainly more powerful, and feels much more connected and fun to drive.
 
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In my opinion Datsun ruined the Z-car for the 1975 model year and beyond. The 240 and 260 had the twin Hitachi carburetors. Starting in 1975 with the 280, everything was fuel injected. Today, the original 240 is probably the most valuable and most desirable (although the sheet metal steel quality was not the best and the vast majority of Z-cars built in the 1970s have long since rusted away)....
 
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Originally Posted by Jon89
In my opinion Datsun ruined the Z-car for the 1975 model year and beyond. The 240 and 260 had the twin Hitachi carburetors. Starting in 1975 with the 280, everything was fuel injected. Today, the original 240 is probably the most valuable and most desirable (although the sheet metal steel quality was not the best and the vast majority of Z-cars built in the 1970s have long since rusted away)....
Like carbs huh? Lol
Because the 240z - 280z was basically the same car with the better motor starting in 75' plus as you stated the sheet metal was better in some areas too. Being that the 260 was the cross road year to the the 280 engine / fuel injection. You know that the #1 engine swap in the Z community is to take the 75-83 z/ZX engine and replace it into the 240-260.

But I agree I wish I could get my hands on a 70' 240Z I would celebrate Xmas again!!!!!

Hey anymore litigation?! I love your dogmatic energy against the insurance company in small claims court!
 
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Originally Posted by tberg
I still have my 1978 280Z, bought new in 1978. It's a beautiful car, but I never drive it because it has not aged gracefully. The whole plastic trunk area creaks and squeaks, cheap interior, and woefully underpowered; it just feels old. My much older Pantera, on the other hand, is much tighter, certainly more powerful, and feels much more connected and fun to drive.
Give that 70s Zcar a lil love with an interior redo for a grand, if resourceful and drive it!!!

Love Panteras, certainly a fun car to own I'm sure. I betcha it's a car show attention getter everywhere you go
 
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Originally Posted by Jon89
I still miss my very first new car - a 1974 Datsun 260Z with those twin Hitachi carburetors you were referring to. Kept it until I finally sold it to a work colleague's 18-year-old son in 1986. He had been pestering me to sell him the car for a couple of years and I finally agreed. Sure wish I had it back today (in original showroom condition, of course)....
Originally Posted by scardini1
I don't even want to think about the Z. It was the final nail in the coffin of my beloved GT6. That said, I later owned TWO 280ZX 2+2s. They were wonderful GTs, but not nearly as good as my XKR.
Originally Posted by The_Ikon
I see you had the lone wolf 74' 260Z... I have a project 75' 280Z & a super nice 95' 300ZX 2+2 coupe now. We had an 81' 280zx turbo in 86' nice fun car!
Originally Posted by tberg
I still have my 1978 280Z, bought new in 1978. It's a beautiful car, but I never drive it because it has not aged gracefully. The whole plastic trunk area creaks and squeaks, cheap interior, and woefully underpowered; it just feels old. My much older Pantera, on the other hand, is much tighter, certainly more powerful, and feels much more connected and fun to drive.
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Like carbs huh? Lol
Because the 240z - 280z was basically the same car with the better motor starting in 75' plus as you stated the sheet metal was better in some areas too. Being that the 260 was the cross road year to the the 280 engine / fuel injection. You know that the #1 engine swap in the Z community is to take the 75-83 z/ZX engine and replace it into the 240-260.

But I agree I wish I could get my hands on a 70' 240Z I would celebrate Xmas again!!!!!

Hey anymore litigation?! I love your dogmatic energy against the insurance company in small claims court!
Yeah, I've been kind of quiet here for the past couple of years. Still, my XK8 is my daily driver and it's off at the upholstery shop getting new leather seats installed. Anyway, my time's been taken up with a restoration project. A 260Z that is now a show winner....

I really think these two cars complement each other.



 
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beg3yrs,

Interesting restoration of a 260Z....


The Ikon,

No more insurance company litigation since 2014. There's been no need to take any further action. Hope it stays that way....
 


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