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Old 01-17-2011, 01:17 PM
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Dealer flushed my system last September and replaced it with
Dex Cool (orange coolant). My car is VIN 034918. Early 1997 models were fitted with blue green coolant up to VIN 001245. From VIN 001246 to 042634 yellow DOW S542 coolant was fitted (change every 2 years). From VIN042635 WSS M97B44-D long life coolant was fitted.

Dex Cool (orange coolant) was used but my car calls for yellow DOW S542 coolant. So my question is now that my car is in storage and will not be started until April can I just leave it alone until then when I will completely flush it again and ensure they use yellow DOW S542 coolant? Will I do any damage by leaving it there for a few months?
 
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Old 01-17-2011, 02:51 PM
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There was a big discussion on this topic a couple of weeks ago. Here's that thread: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...hlight=coolant It's very informative.

But to answer your question, I'd say change it as soon as possible.
 
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Old 01-17-2011, 04:35 PM
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Yes I read that entire forum before I posted. If I don't don't change the coolant for three months, even though the car is idle, can I do much harm if any?
 
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Old 01-17-2011, 04:41 PM
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Steve11 is the most knowledgeable guy on this topic.

Seems he hasn't been around for a few days, but I'm sure he'll give you the best advice when he pops up again.
 
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Old 01-17-2011, 09:44 PM
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My armchair anecdotal experience suggests that your risk is minimal. The Dextron coolant issues seem to be based on extended use factors in aging coolant systems... not something a likely to affect a new coolant fill in a well maintained vehicle in storage for a few more months.

IMO these coolant threads are way overblown in terms of fear-based pseudo scientific opinions. The only subject matter more hotly contested is the proverbial ATF discussions that go on ad infinitum. If you use hard water in your system, then you need to beware of phosphates, but most of us already nullify that concern by using distilled water.

When you get a chance I would pull the thermostat, open the heater core and flush the system with a garden hose. Then rinse and fill with distilled water and whatever coolant you intend to use. If you are truly paranoid, you might want to drain that mix and refill a second time; but I would simply get in and drive.

I have consistently used the cheap yellow Autozone coolant in all my cars for as long as I can remember. The only concession to homogenized coolant usage is that I drain and refill refill about every 18 mos. To date there has not been ANY evidence that this maintenance strategy has caused any problems whatsoever.

BTW my maintenance schedule for important items like brake fluid flush and oil changes are very strict and followed religiously... But as far as I am concerned , if you change the fluid out every 12-18 months; arguing about the correct coolant is slightly more important than debating the advantages of using nitrogen in the tires.
 

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Old 01-18-2011, 01:08 AM
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Personally would chemical flush it, so you are sure everything is out everywhere (also heater block etc). Get the recommended dexcool (Jaguars docs sometimes reference the Havoline XLC), and be good for another 10 years (thats jaguars latest recommendation for the 4.2 blocks).
 
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Did not want to leave it any longer so going to flush and fill with correct coolant. I am worried about the yellow DOW S542 coolant mixing with the dexcool to create a sludge as I am confident the dealer just did a drain and re-fill. My plan is to run the engine at 1500-2000 RPM until temperature gauge reads in the center mark and the electric radiator fans starts operating. Then switch on climate control to max fan and max temperature and run for about 10 more minutes. I will do this twice with distilled water. However I understand that even with the drain plug removed on the radiator there is sill coolant remaining in the engine. My question is how can I be sure to get all of the dexcool out of my engine?
 
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Did not want to leave it any longer so going to flush and fill with correct coolant. I am worried about the yellow DOW S542 coolant mixing with the dexcool to create a sludge as I am confident the dealer just did a drain and re-fill. My plan is to run the engine at 1500-2000 RPM until temperature gauge reads in the center mark and the electric radiator fans starts operating. Then switch on climate control to max fan and max temperature and run for about 10 more minutes. I will do this twice with distilled water. However I understand that even with the drain plug removed on the radiator there is sill coolant remaining in the engine. My question is how can I be sure to get all of the dexcool out of my engine?
Here are the drain points on each side of the engine:
 
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:33 AM
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I learned this recently from an article in Popular Mechanics. In addition to providing thermal protection, antifreeze contains properties that inhibit the reactions between differing metals on modern engine systems - it is an insulator of sorts.

You can test it's efficacy at this with a simple hand held volt meter. In my case it tested good for anti-freeze properties but marginal for insulation.

With the + lead in the coolant and the - lead grounded, look for a reading less than 0.7 or so. Readings over 0.7 indicate that a change is due.
 
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Old 03-07-2011, 12:26 PM
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Does anyone know if yellow DOW S542 coolant is the same coolant as the yellow Xerex GL05--produced by Valvoline? (I found Xerex on the back shelf @ OReilly--special ordered by a fleet user for Superduty trucks.)
 
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Originally Posted by JagYour
Did not want to leave it any longer so going to flush and fill with correct coolant. I am worried about the yellow DOW S542 coolant mixing with the dexcool to create a sludge as I am confident the dealer just did a drain and re-fill. My plan is to run the engine at 1500-2000 RPM until temperature gauge reads in the center mark and the electric radiator fans starts operating. Then switch on climate control to max fan and max temperature and run for about 10 more minutes. I will do this twice with distilled water. However I understand that even with the drain plug removed on the radiator there is sill coolant remaining in the engine. My question is how can I be sure to get all of the dexcool out of my engine?
Also be sure to run your climate control in the "heat" mode so that the flush water has an opportunity to flush out the heater core as well.
 
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Anyone know the torques for the drain plugs and sealant to use if any?
 
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I do not, I didn't 'torque' to any spec on my radiator drain project.
 
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Old 08-09-2011, 03:18 PM
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Not sure about orange to yellow but I've seen orange to green and green to orange many times and it makes a huge mess of things.
 
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I changed many of the 90's jags over to the long life orange(including my 96 vdp 6 yrs ago) and never had any issues. Leave it.
 
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Jaguar approved the use of XL coolant for earlier cars if the system is flushed.

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My Dodge truck uses a G-05 HOAT coolant, at a oil changing place they "topped off" my coolant with the yellow type (G-05 is golden), this caused something to precipitate and completely clogged my radiator necessitating replacement. I learned to never ever mix anti freezes.
 
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