XKR as a Four Door?
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Hate to step into the middle of a private conversation, but I have to defend the Milano (Alfa 75).
As a former owner I will agree that it wasn't the best looking car that ever came out of Italy, but it suffered only in comparison to Ferraris, Lambos and other Alfas. Compare it to the U.S. cars of the 1980's and it looks downright handsome.
However, double-clutching it into 3rd gear coming out of a tight corner made it into one beautiful car. And it had 4 doors.
As a former owner I will agree that it wasn't the best looking car that ever came out of Italy, but it suffered only in comparison to Ferraris, Lambos and other Alfas. Compare it to the U.S. cars of the 1980's and it looks downright handsome.
However, double-clutching it into 3rd gear coming out of a tight corner made it into one beautiful car. And it had 4 doors.
Matador? Oh dear. This thread has officially descended into a farce. Postcount +1.
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I started this about an hour ago. No competition-quality photoshopping intended, but it will do. ![Wink](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif)
I'd drive it.
The rear door handles would be accessed after opening the front doors. The roof is bulged slightly upward to add some headroom for the rear passengers.
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I'd drive it.
The rear door handles would be accessed after opening the front doors. The roof is bulged slightly upward to add some headroom for the rear passengers.
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I was thinking another possibility would also to make it a three door, as we see some of, where the driver's side remains the same door wise with one of those small doors on the other side. After all, it is not like the rear doors are really going to get a lot of use on such a car.
I am trying to upload an image of a stock one with this one as a comparison. Hopefully it comes out.
I think that what helps is that these cars have a very sleek design to start with, so extending it a bit does not change the actual look very much.
Looks better than a Matador.
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Ok now we're getting somewhere.
That looks good! Better than the Panamera for sure, and I think even the Rapide. I would be interested in seeing it stretched a tad further so it's closer to a Quattroporte, not a RX-8. Rear door handles would be cool. I'd keep the rear window at the B-pillar the same height and take it back a few 'inches' before it started getting familiarly swoopy. Good call on the 'headroom'.
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Jag#4,
I stand by my inclusion of the Milano as one of the ugliest designs of all time. It came from the factory looking as if it had already been rear ended with a beltline that abruptly changed directions (as if it had been hit from behind) from the rear quarter to the rear doors. Honda has done the same stupid thing with the current Odyssey mini van and that dumb looking curved window line (as well as the previous generation Accord). Alfas are a blast to drive, and many were and are beautiful to look at, the Milano was not one of the latter. (Even European carmakers can do some bonehead designs)
I stand by my inclusion of the Milano as one of the ugliest designs of all time. It came from the factory looking as if it had already been rear ended with a beltline that abruptly changed directions (as if it had been hit from behind) from the rear quarter to the rear doors. Honda has done the same stupid thing with the current Odyssey mini van and that dumb looking curved window line (as well as the previous generation Accord). Alfas are a blast to drive, and many were and are beautiful to look at, the Milano was not one of the latter. (Even European carmakers can do some bonehead designs)
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For the point, look at the first post of this thread. I think the 4 door is a more practical version of the 2 door. In the current version of the coupe, the rear seats are useless.
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[QUOTE=Jeff in Tucson;766428]I started this about an hour ago. No competition-quality photoshopping intended, but it will do. ![Wink](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif)
I'd drive it.
The rear door handles would be accessed after opening the front doors. The roof is bulged slightly upward to add some headroom for the rear passengers.
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I think that's a great looking car - it still looks like a coupe, but can accomodate four people at least with same comfort as the not so pretty Panamera or out of this world expensive Rapide. Great job Jeff.
If you can stretch it just a bit more, it would be even better looking and more comfy to get in and out for the rear passengers.
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I'd drive it.
The rear door handles would be accessed after opening the front doors. The roof is bulged slightly upward to add some headroom for the rear passengers.
![](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/attachments/xk8-xkr-x100-17/47263-xkr-four-door-4doorxkr_zps8cab3e79.jpg?dateline=1373043916)
I think that's a great looking car - it still looks like a coupe, but can accomodate four people at least with same comfort as the not so pretty Panamera or out of this world expensive Rapide. Great job Jeff.
If you can stretch it just a bit more, it would be even better looking and more comfy to get in and out for the rear passengers.
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Then go for a nice looking 2-door coupe with decent rear seat room. The Cadillac 2-door CTS comes to mind. It is just my opinion that coupes look more natural as 2-door while sedans look more natural as 4-door.
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My step mother had a '69 2+2 and I thought it looked pregnant next to my coup or roadster. Not sure why they raised the roof so much. Yet it had a ton of headroom but what a way to destroy an otherwise good looking car. '69 was really when the DMV started working aggressively to make cars look ugly, the bumpers that came in the next few years and huge chrome grills finished their effort.
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The sedan, however, looks great.
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Last night my wife and I met up in NYC with our friends, who had recently bought a brand spanking new and shiny Maserati GranTurismo in silver/red color combo. We all went for a ride ("all", meaning the four of us... As in 4 adults) and I must say - What a car!!!
It makes all the right sounds with the stock exhaust. It looks like a million bucks. It moves really swiftly and doesn't feel nervous on the rugged streets of New York City. All this while accommodating 4 people rather comfortably. The GT costs a whopping 135K before taxes (read "expensive"). I'm certain that any car on the road today does not justify such a hefty price tag, but if you have the $$$, you may as well treat yourself - hey, you only live once.
Having said that, I am still on my honeymoon with my XKR. While in the city, I saw at least 4 Maserati GTs and not one XKR coupe (XK100). While the Jaguar only seats 2 people comfortably, it still stirs the heart of a car enthusiast and that is what really matters.
It makes all the right sounds with the stock exhaust. It looks like a million bucks. It moves really swiftly and doesn't feel nervous on the rugged streets of New York City. All this while accommodating 4 people rather comfortably. The GT costs a whopping 135K before taxes (read "expensive"). I'm certain that any car on the road today does not justify such a hefty price tag, but if you have the $$$, you may as well treat yourself - hey, you only live once.
Having said that, I am still on my honeymoon with my XKR. While in the city, I saw at least 4 Maserati GTs and not one XKR coupe (XK100). While the Jaguar only seats 2 people comfortably, it still stirs the heart of a car enthusiast and that is what really matters.
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